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Union pilots at Southwest Airlines have reached a tentative agreement on a new, five-year contract that would boost salaries and retirement benefits, among other provisions. Union chief Carl Kuwitzky said Friday that pilots also would win increased work protections under the proposed agreement, which should go to the union's board in late February or early March, after both sides have hammered out the final language. The Dallas Morning News (1/31)
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Union pilots at Southwest Airlines have reached a tentative agreement on a new, five-year contract that would boost salaries and retirement benefits, among other provisions.
Getting a "boost on salaries and retirement benefits" during these times, already on top of what they make?? WOW, they are raising the bar, good for them
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Guess they are doing what DAL did. Granted they are starting a little higher, but they are getting about the same yearly increase that we agreed to under our JPWA last year.

I am quite curious to see what the Section 1 looks like.
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I am quite curious to see what the Section 1 looks like.
Heyas ACL,

As am I. Without a good section 1, it doesn't matter what the rest of the contract says.

Max pay till they outsource your job to Mariachi Air or B&D McKenzie Airways (although I hear they serve some strange brew on board) isn't the way to go about it...

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If the Section 1 is crap, you can take that "BAR" and beat yourself with it.

We still have not seen any specifics. BOD has 30 days to review. It will be mid March, before we even see it if they approve the TA for pilot ratification.
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For your sake I hope there is a great section 1. If not the whole contract is worth nothing. Learn from our mistakes.
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At least they're not giving away scope like DALPA did.
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I hope you are correct.
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The letter from the union did specify that the new agreement states "no domestic codeshare." As far as international flights go, I think they had a pretty hard stance that all codeshares had to include at least one leg on SWA.

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The letter from the union did specify that the new agreement states "no domestic codeshare." As far as international flights go, I think they had a pretty hard stance that all codeshares had to include at least one leg on a SWA.
Hopefully SWAPA will talk with ALPA and APA about SCOPE.. I mean this with the sincere respect. Both of the Unions can explain how previously contract language was written, and how said management teams have found loop holes around them

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