Spirit of NKS
#21
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Skybolt you are right. It does not make sense now but there are some good opportunities abroad. Or at least it appears. I met several FOs and CAs from Spirit (don't know them personally) who said they had interviews lined up with Etihad, Gulf Air and Qatar Airways. In view of the current economic situation, it's far from being a bad choice.
Tell you what. I had to go out there to check it out. I interviewed with two of the three airlines you listed and canceled the other one. Myself and most of the Americans that were out there did not like what they saw. On the A320's: 8 days off a month, mostly red-eyes, no bidding system, no true criteria for upgrade or fleet transfer (it's partly merit based), hat and suit patrol, if you're single don't plan on finding a girlfriend... and many other cultural shock issues (killer traffic, living in compound, listening to the 5-times-a-day prayers on loud speakers, etc). Now, I understand that having a job beats not having one. Personally, I'd rather fly checks for Flight Express here in the States, then fly A320's for any one of those airlines. Europeans take the job because they are WAY closer to home than we are. Even so, I met several brits, that had jobs in Europe (Easyjet, RyanAir, etc.) that said screw this ...
Blue skies!
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#22
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Let me re-post after being censored for alleged "profane" language. Welcome to the Socialist States of America... Anyway...
Tell you what. I had to go out there to check it out. I interviewed with two of the three airlines you listed and canceled the other one. Myself and most of the Americans that were out there did not like what they saw. On the A320's: 8 days off a month, mostly red-eyes, no bidding system, no true criteria for upgrade or fleet transfer (it's partly merit based), hat and suit patrol, if you're single don't plan on finding a girlfriend... and many other cultural shock issues (killer traffic, living in compound, listening to the 5-times-a-day prayers on loud speakers, etc). Now, I understand that having a job beats not having one. Personally, I'd rather fly checks for Flight Express here in the States, then fly A320's for any one of those airlines. Europeans take the job because they are WAY closer to home than we are. Even so, I met several brits, that had jobs in Europe (Easyjet, RyanAir, etc.) that said screw this ...
Blue skies!
Tell you what. I had to go out there to check it out. I interviewed with two of the three airlines you listed and canceled the other one. Myself and most of the Americans that were out there did not like what they saw. On the A320's: 8 days off a month, mostly red-eyes, no bidding system, no true criteria for upgrade or fleet transfer (it's partly merit based), hat and suit patrol, if you're single don't plan on finding a girlfriend... and many other cultural shock issues (killer traffic, living in compound, listening to the 5-times-a-day prayers on loud speakers, etc). Now, I understand that having a job beats not having one. Personally, I'd rather fly checks for Flight Express here in the States, then fly A320's for any one of those airlines. Europeans take the job because they are WAY closer to home than we are. Even so, I met several brits, that had jobs in Europe (Easyjet, RyanAir, etc.) that said screw this ...
Blue skies!
Good Luck! My guess is even they are not hiring.
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Yeah, there is a MEC letter out talking about CN's cumming to a Halt after something like 30 yrs or shi#, and to be ready for PREPARE...I just don't know, I had and "idea" of what we wanted to accomplish, now I am absolutely lost, Contract, Company, 4-5 day off shi#, lines. work rules, buying a/c, returning a/c, new cities, cxlng cities....
Who that fuk knows who wants what.
Who that fuk knows who wants what.
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Yeah, there is a MEC letter out talking about CN's cumming to a Halt after something like 30 yrs or shi#, and to be ready for PREPARE...I just don't know, I had and "idea" of what we wanted to accomplish, now I am absolutely lost, Contract, Company, 4-5 day off shi#, lines. work rules, buying a/c, returning a/c, new cities, cxlng cities....
Who that fuk knows who wants what.
Who that fuk knows who wants what.
We want a contract with a fair pay raise without giving away the farm. We want our 4 days off returned to us as our contract allows. The company and pilots want new airplanes.
The last negotiating update said the mediator now refuses to meet again until the company "stops the B.S.". Now things get interesting!
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Don't we all want something?, I agree with you is not that complicated, and thx for that clarification....
But when things stop been complicated between Co's and Unions...
But when things stop been complicated between Co's and Unions...
#28
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Educate me. Our company has used every trick possible to stall negotiations. Now the mediator says he will get back to us when the company stop the b.s. What prevents the company from stopping? Could they just continue with their tactics and not be affected? Our we finally going to get somewhere?
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Educate me. Our company has used every trick possible to stall negotiations. Now the mediator says he will get back to us when the company stop the b.s. What prevents the company from stopping? Could they just continue with their tactics and not be affected? Our we finally going to get somewhere?
We need to make sure, now more than ever, that the Spirit Pilots speak together, with one voice, and show Indigo we are serious about this.
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