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Old 08-28-2014, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex View Post
How about we make it non-anonymous? I bet it would be more civil and transparent. Don't allow any management pilots to register.
You got to be kidding me. Non-Anonymous? When was the last time you signed your name to a post?

You only get honesty with anonymity. This MEC seems to be on a search and destroy. Say the wrong thing and woops, sorry that NOI didn't work out for you.

Bravo to Spiritpilotboard.com, Ill be happy to pay too. Im surprised the last board never asked for money. No advertising. It was someone's out of pocket.

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Old 08-28-2014, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Orbit View Post
You got to be kidding me. Non-Anonymous? When was the last time you signed your name to a post?

You only get honesty with anonymity. This MEC seems to be on a search and destroy. Say the wrong thing and woops, sorry that NOI didn't work out for you.

Bravo to Spiritpilotboard.com, Ill be happy to pay too. Im surprised the last board never asked for money. No advertising. It was someone's out of pocket.
At my previous carrier, we had a non-anonymous message board. It worked fine. It tends to temper a lot of the blowhards when they can't hide. I'd have no problem with it personally. Speak truth to power and all that.
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Old 08-28-2014, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex View Post
At my previous carrier, we had a non-anonymous message board. It worked fine. It tends to temper a lot of the blowhards when they can't hide. I'd have no problem with it personally. Speak truth to power and all that.
We did too at my last job. Our Pro Standards chair told me 85% of his work load involved disputes that originated on the board and migrated to email, telephone and/or the flight planning room. Plus, several guys got fired for message board activities-something about posting proprietary company information online. There may be some validity to what you say but the lack of an actual human "interface" still emboldens a lot of people to talk big.
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Old 08-29-2014, 04:49 AM
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Anonymity is a self-fulfilling prophesy.

A conspiracy theorist feels the MEC is after him, so needs anonymity. Once anonymous, they speak about the need to hide from the MEC and spread vitriol without consequence, fulfilling the need to now remain anonymous, lest their comments be attributed to them.

Anonymity allows the truth to come out, but these nuggets of truth are found within a soup of vitriol, making it difficult to glean fantasy from reality.
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Old 08-29-2014, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NedsKid View Post
Anonymity is a self-fulfilling prophesy.

A conspiracy theorist feels the MEC is after him, so needs anonymity. Once anonymous, they speak about the need to hide from the MEC and spread vitriol without consequence, fulfilling the need to now remain anonymous, lest their comments be attributed to them.

Anonymity allows the truth to come out, but these nuggets of truth are found within a soup of vitriol, making it difficult to glean fantasy from reality.
Well said. I guess it all depends on whether these message boards are used more for entertainment or whether we actually want them to be legitimate sources to disseminate information.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:43 AM
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You could always just tell people who you are, LOL.

Im Joey C, ACY F/O. APC original gangsta
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs View Post
You could always just tell people who you are, LOL.

Im Joey C, ACY F/O. APC original gangsta
I just ran into one of your ex exjet gangsta buddies catching a ride from MCI to LAS.
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Old 08-29-2014, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Orbit View Post
I smell a rat. As a matter of fact I have been smelling it for a while. The majority of the 077 is effectively locked out of the vote. Why couldn't there be concurrent meetings if physical presence is required?

What a dirty trick Tony! You are still the Chair till you resign right?
So just because the 3 reps happen to be off that day, they decide to schedule a vote AFTER the bids came out AND you need to be present at the meeting in LAS to vote when the MAJORITY of 77 pilots are based in DFW smells VERY ROTTEN to me. Typical MEC dirty politics we've seen over and over throughout the many years! I suggest that every 77 pilot write ALPA Membership ([email protected]) and complain about this! Demand a vote in DFW as well!
Remember, the Interim Captain Rep will have a vote in the National President's election. So the Interim Rep does matter.

Hey newbies, starting to get it now?
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Old 08-29-2014, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Orbit View Post
I smell a rat. As a matter of fact I have been smelling it for a while. The majority of the 077 is effectively locked out of the vote. Why couldn't there be concurrent meetings if physical presence is required?

What a dirty trick Tony! You are still the Chair till you resign right?
So just because the 3 reps happen to be off that day, they decide to schedule a vote AFTER the bids came out AND you need to be present at the meeting in LAS to vote when the MAJORITY of 77 pilots are based in DFW smells VERY ROTTEN to me. Typical MEC dirty politics we've seen over and over throughout the many years! I suggest that every 77 pilot write ALPA Membership ([email protected]) and complain about this! Demand a vote in DFW as well!
Remember, the Interim Captain Rep will have a vote in the National President's election. So the Interim Rep does matter.

Hey newbies, starting to get it now?
Well I'm just a "newbie" but even I know that whoever is the CA rep for 77 won't matter for the ALPA president election. Won't matter because our entire MEC will cast votes for 1 candidate and that candidate will be decided at BOD when all the back room deals are struck. This is how it always happens and will be this way for the next election, and the one after that.

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Old 08-29-2014, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice View Post
Well I'm just a "newbie" but even I know that whoever is the CA rep for 77 won't matter for the ALPA president election. Because our entire MEC will cast votes for 1 candidate and that candidate will be decided at BOD when all the back room deals are struck. This is how it always happens and will be this way for the next election. Surprise!
Nonsense. He will matter because the Captain Representative is a MEC member (and a Board of Directors member too) with roll call voting privileges, representing his Council's wishes. Pretty sad you believe everyone in the union engages in "back door deals."
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