Boomer

1 yr 6 months is a pretty big loophole.

When the block hours go out of whack in favor of DCI, you have to just suck it up for 18 months? Then the company has 60 days to get back in compliance, and then how long to the next snapshot? Another 18 months? This sounds like the kind of junk Comair ALPA signs off on.

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Wow, I'm amazed we're going to get parity with 2012 SWA pay by 2015.

I think the most amazing part is SWA pay will stay flat from 2012 to 2015 and allow us to catch up. No raises?

Boomer

Don't you have a dog to wake up?

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PruneJuice

Send in your cards.

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@#$#%##^#%!@@#

forgot to bid

I just think Captain Jack epitomizes this whole thing:



And really, who doesn't want a ship that makes it easier for you to walk onto the dock?

80ktsClamp

I've got a Frontier ad with a E-190 on it showing now. That slap in the face on our scope sure feels nice.

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gloopy

Please. So what, no more labor buster ACMI whipsaw providers will sign deals with DL? Cry me a river.

Their contracts have to have a cancellation clause. And DL has been sued by DCI more than once (Mesa and SkyWest at the very least) and DL remains deeply in love with SkyWest and every time they pick up the phone with DL on the other end they are ready to copy outsourcing instructions.

I'm really not worried about our street cred with labor busting fake airline ACMI whipsaw providers. We sign contracts with cancellation clauses. We will abide by those clauses. Nothing more is owed beyond that.

gloopy

Even if all that were true and we need to pump up DCI with these extra 90 seaters (configured for 76 seats), why are we giving them to the company instead of loaning them to the company? Why not say the first 70 leases for 76 seaters that come up shall not be renewed and shall be either parked or transferred to mainline. Why the permanent sale of those jets if the reasoning for the in the first place is a quick one time fix for a limited time?

Sink r8

No, I was thinking more like Boeing, Airbus, banks, rating agencies, and another entity. Because if we're hoping that we work for an airline that desn't honor its' contracts with everyone else, we certainly can't imagine we'll be immune.

You're a smart guy, judging from the majoriy of your posts, and I think you know there is no magic wand to make the 50-seaters go away, even though they're beer cans.

That's why we're all shiIIing ourselves, and hopping mad, that we're going to have to give some withing Section 1, to gain more. We all hoped for some miracle to make the 50-seaters go away, so we didn't expect to give up anything. And many of expected to take on a few RJ's anyway, and shift it out of 1 and into 3.

Now we're obviously just shiIIing ourselves because dreams don't come true, and because we're making a very expensive Scope purchase, and the "strictly payrates" guys are realizing they'll probably want to play along based on the TVM argument.

I stand by my original post. I've been observing this group in action for some time now, and I think the dynamics at play are as I described.