Once a trip is on your line that is the minimum for what you will get paid.
This is incorrect information. If you want a correct answer on scheduling issues you need to go to the DALPA committee section and post your question. You will get a QA's answer. I see so many wrong things posted contractually on here that I don't even bother to try and correct most of them.
Short answer to the above question is there is only pay protection in the month the trip originates. Anything that spills over into the following month has no protection until after the carry out trips are adjusted in the following months bid package. You could bid a 4 day trip worth 24 hours and end up getting only paid for the first day if the trip is modified and flying dropped in the following month. Even if it flies as a 4 day the value can be reduced and you get no protection on the spill over portion.
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Be advised that you can be rerouted into a Golden Day. A lot of times, crew tracking doesn't know that you are going into a golden day so if you do get rerouted, call them and explain the situation. Most times, they can find someone else. But, it is legal.
Ok.... So what's the point of having a golden day then?
Ok.... So what's the point of having a golden day then?
Nothing. Golden days are only good for finishing short call at noon on your last day. However, when you get a call at 0930 to cover a rotation at 1130, you can and will finish much later (or the next day if rerouted).
This is incorrect information. If you want a correct answer on scheduling issues you need to go to the DALPA committee section and post your question. You will get a QA's answer. I see so many wrong things posted contractually on here that I don't even bother to try and correct most of them.
Short answer to the above question is there is only pay protection in the month the trip originates. Anything that spills over into the following month has no protection until after the carry out trips are adjusted in the following months bid package. You could bid a 4 day trip worth 24 hours and end up getting only paid for the first day if the trip is modified and flying dropped in the following month. Even if it flies as a 4 day the value can be reduced and you get no protection on the spill over portion.
Ok.... So what's the point of having a golden day then?
They're pointless. Inviolate days at NWA were much better. There is zero penalty to scheduling for rolling a reserve into a Golden Day. It's basically impossible to make solid plans on days off as a reserve.
Surprised that more hasn't been said about the downfall of our late, great friend Bill Lumburg, considering he was one of the TAs biggest cheerleaders on here. Obviously it was a false-flag disinformation campaign...but on behalf of whom? Management? ALPA? RAA? Or was he some regional guy who really really wanted a shot at flying more 90 seaters?
The silence from shiznit in particular is deafening considering how many times he told me to go back to playing in the regional forum sandbox because I'm not a Delta pilot .
They're pointless. Inviolate days at NWA were much better. There is zero penalty to scheduling for rolling a reserve into a Golden Day. It's basically impossible to make solid plans on days off as a reserve.
I disagree - in 3 years on reserve, I've never been forced to work on an X day or a Golden day. Once, there was a mechanical and I was going to be extended (rerouted I guess) into a golden day. I just called Crew Tracking, told them (as it says in When Scheduling Calls) and within 30 minutes I was going to get home as originally scheduled.
But you have to tell crew tracking, they don't know about your schedule, they only know about the trip you're on.
I disagree - in 3 years on reserve, I've never been forced to work on an X day or a Golden day. Once, there was a mechanical and I was going to be extended (rerouted I guess) into a golden day. I just called Crew Tracking, told them (as it says in When Scheduling Calls) and within 30 minutes I was going to get home as originally scheduled.
But you have to tell crew tracking, they don't know about your schedule, they only know about the trip you're on.
That is correct, and a long-time defect of Delta (lack of) Technology. Crew Tracking literally does not see your schedule. They just see crews flying around the system. So if you are on day 3 of 3, and you have vacation starting the next day, Crew Tracking does not know or see that! So in the unlikely but always-possible event that you get rerouted into a longer trip that conflicts with vacation, golden day, etc. you must let Crew Tracking know and they will find someone else.
But this is also the airline industry. If you are scheduled to finish a trip with a "penalty lap" to an outlying station and you break hard up at FNT (or wherever), guess what? You may end up getting stuck overnight and flying into your vacation, etc. But Crew Tracking can not actually reroute you in advance to do that.
I disagree - in 3 years on reserve, I've never been forced to work on an X day or a Golden day. Once, there was a mechanical and I was going to be extended (rerouted I guess) into a golden day. I just called Crew Tracking, told them (as it says in When Scheduling Calls) and within 30 minutes I was going to get home as originally scheduled.
But you have to tell crew tracking, they don't know about your schedule, they only know about the trip you're on.
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
That is correct, and a long-time defect of Delta (lack of) Technology. Crew Tracking literally does not see your schedule. They just see crews flying around the system. So if you are on day 3 of 3, and you have vacation starting the next day, Crew Tracking does not know or see that! So in the unlikely but always-possible event that you get rerouted into a longer trip that conflicts with vacation, golden day, etc. you must let Crew Tracking know and they will find someone else.
But this is also the airline industry. If you are scheduled to finish a trip with a "penalty lap" to an outlying station and you break hard up at FNT (or wherever), guess what? You may end up getting stuck overnight and flying into your vacation, etc. But Crew Tracking can not actually reroute you in advance to do that.
Gentleman,
Thanks for the clarification. However, I still have an issue with the fact that there is NO penalty for tracking/scheduling flying a reserve into his/her days off.
Well I had a plane with a seat with my name on it ready to deadhead home. I spent twenty minutes on the phone with scheduling and reroute. They both had managers on the phone talking to each other and said I had to fly into my day off. Everybody on the phone knew about the golden day. They also knew I had a nice cozy seat on a plane. I was not stuck, the weather was great. The company just needed the best , and only, pilot available!
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However, I still have an issue with the fact that there is NO penalty for tracking/scheduling flying a reserve into his/her days off.
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