Originally Posted by orvil

When do the fences come down on the 747 and 777? I'm so old, I can't remember.

Originally Posted by georgetg

poppycock, "luck" and "stars" have nothing to do with it...

Two years ago the threat of furlough was very real. We weathered that storm because management made a business decision based on economic outlook and our contract and decided there was more to gain by not furloughing.

Fast forward to today and barring a catastrophic world event or a series of fuel-hedge missteps, Delta is on track for a third consecutive year of solid profitability.

RA is playing the long game. It's one of further consolidation and the strategy will pay off in the end by improving stability and health of the US airline industry. I fully support the effort.

But make no mistake, our career progression (or lack thereof) is financing the strategic plan.

Capacity constraint as a mechanism to boost profitability is maxed out. Further gains can't come from shrinking and further contraction will just enable non-network carriers and boost their growth without adding to the bottom line. That's why current and future cuts are more in-line with a long term chess game setting up Delta for the a more advantageous position for consolidation in the airline industry.

Unfortunately what makes a company successful is growth and our seniority-based system is intimately tied to that cart. Most likely any future growth won't be organic and that too will have an impact on seniority...

Not luck, not stars, just plain business.
Long term I do expect some career ROI ;-)

Cheers
George

Originally Posted by georgetg

poppycock, "luck" and "stars" have nothing to do with it...

Two years ago the threat of furlough was very real. We weathered that storm because management made a business decision based on economic outlook and our contract and decided there was more to gain by not furloughing.

Fast forward to today and barring a catastrophic world event or a series of fuel-hedge missteps, Delta is on track for a third consecutive year of solid profitability.

RA is playing the long game. It's one of further consolidation and the strategy will pay off in the end by improving stability and health of the US airline industry. I fully support the effort.

But make no mistake, our career progression (or lack thereof) is financing the strategic plan.

Capacity constraint as a mechanism to boost profitability is maxed out. Further gains can't come from shrinking and further contraction will just enable non-network carriers and boost their growth without adding to the bottom line. That's why current and future cuts are more in-line with a long term chess game setting up Delta for the a more advantageous position for consolidation in the airline industry.

Unfortunately what makes a company successful is growth and our seniority-based system is intimately tied to that cart. Most likely any future growth won't be organic and that too will have an impact on seniority...

Not luck, not stars, just plain business.
Long term I do expect some career ROI ;-)

Cheers
George

Originally Posted by TheWagman

I thought the fences dropped Oct 31,2013... Wasn't that five years after SOC???

Originally Posted by JABDIP

RMA Semi-Final: 320 CA
320 FO
330 CA
330 FO
88/90 CA
737 CA
744 CA
744 FO
757/767 CA
757/767 FO
767-400 CA
767-400 FO
767ER CA
767ER FO
DC-9
777
Base Total
ATL
1
0
8
1
4
3
0
0
2
1
5
0
8
0
0
2
35
DTW
6
0
28
2
0
0
39
10
0
0
0
0
16
0
1
0
102
MSP
24
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
18
1
0
0
44
SLC
7
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
9
SEA
0
0
18
2
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
7
0
0
0
27
NYC
1
0
0
0
1
2
0
0
1
0
0
0
3
0
0
0
8
LAX
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3
1
0
0
4
NBC/INC
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
22
Total RMA
39
1
54
5
5
6
39
10
3
1
5
0
56
2
1
2
251