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Old 04-25-2014, 06:48 AM
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Flyallnite--you know you're onto something when the usual Dalpa suspects pile on in an obviously coordinated response with their tried and true talking points.
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Old 04-25-2014, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr

Most guys I fly with have expressed surprise with how much MORE they made in 2013 vice 2012.
Most guys I fly with are surprised with how much MORE they had to fly in 2013 vs 2012.
Good thing we made all those manning concessions. But hey, it's ok. The early outs made up for it, right?

Wait. Those were grossly overestimated in the sales job. Let's not forget that.
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Old 04-25-2014, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite View Post
The trips are less productive and the profit sharing was lower. Believe me, I'm just as surprised.
That's a bummer. I definitely made more last year than I did the year before. Same category and no additional flying to speak of. I was surprised by the change too, but apparently for the exact opposite result that you experienced.
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Old 04-25-2014, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
Most guys I fly with are surprised with how much MORE they had to fly in 2013 vs 2012.
Good thing we made all those manning concessions. But hey, it's ok. The early outs made up for it, right?

Wait. Those were grossly overestimated in the sales job. Let's not forget that.
Weird... As a mid-level lineholder I had the same number of days of work(181) and my pay went up 27% YOY.

Have PWA changes in manning been the reason or the Company reducing staffing overages that have been carried for years been the reason pilots aren't sitting around as much?

(although if you ask flyallnite, he's been sitting around plenty even now)
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Old 04-25-2014, 07:51 AM
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Holy cr@p! New AE out on dlnet!

Who's ready for some real WB and NB movement!

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Old 04-25-2014, 07:53 AM
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AE out! This is only ATL:
ATL765CAPT 5
ATL330CAPT 10
ATL320CAPT 5
ATLM88CAPT 10
ATL717CAPT 40
ATL765F/O 5
ATL330F/O 15
ATL7ERF/O 15
ATL320F/O 10

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Old 04-25-2014, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
Most guys I fly with are surprised with how much MORE they had to fly in 2013 vs 2012.
Good thing we made all those manning concessions. But hey, it's ok. The early outs made up for it, right?

Wait. Those were grossly overestimated in the sales job. Let's not forget that.
What is your position and base?
I really think you have some valid points...sometimes, and then sometimes you just talk out your a$$!
I flew 744:14 in 2012 and 729:33 in 2013...I made $23,656 more in 2013
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
Most guys I fly with are surprised with how much MORE they had to fly in 2013 vs 2012.
Good thing we made all those manning concessions. But hey, it's ok. The early outs made up for it, right?

Wait. Those were grossly overestimated in the sales job. Let's not forget that.
Again crew planning has made zero adjustments in manning with the new contract. You really should call them and explain the concessions. You keep parroting this but nothing backs up your statement.

Edit: oh look another AE with 90 new Captains! According to your statements we should still be displacing captains and furloughing FO's!

Oops, my mistake 152 new Captains! Total since we gave up all those jobs almost 700 new CA positions since contract signing. Massive massive job loss!

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Old 04-25-2014, 08:02 AM
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Starting to think 24/wk might not be enough hiring...
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3 View Post
AE out!
ATL765CAPT 5
ATL330CAPT 10
ATL320CAPT 5
ATLM88CAPT 10
ATL717CAPT 40
ATL765F/O 5
ATL330F/O 15
ATL7ERF/O 15
ATL320F/O 10
Sweet mother of Jesus. The South rises again!

I'm delighted to see it. That should open up some positions in more junior bases, to be sure.
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