Alan Shore

Yes. The ALPA scheduling guys are now there 8-8.

Timbo

Good to know!

Thanks Alan, and thank you to any DALPA Scheduling guys reading this too!

Alan Shore

Not trying to start anything, but would you ever expect your agent to come back saying anything other than that he's done the best he can? What else do you expect them to say?

Those of us who were here for C2K may remember that committee saying something about having tried for more but settling for what they felt was the most they could get. As I recall, they too used the TVM argument.

DAL 88 Driver

Thanks.

I didn't get into the different interpretations in my ASR. I take the Sargeant Friday approach to most of my ASR's... "just the facts, ma'am."

In any case, I didn't really consider sending it to my reps or CA. Based on my correspondence earlier this year with my reps and the scheduling committee chair regarding the FAR 117 8 hour uninterrupted sleep opportunity, I suspect they would have agreed with Crew Tracking and not with me.

DAL 88 Driver

That may be true. I don't remember it that well.

But what you have to remember is that C2K was a COMPLETELY different situation than what we have now. We weren't trying to recover from a 42% pay cut (or anything even remotely like it) when we were negotiating C2K. Oh... I forgot. We apparently aren't trying to do that now either.

gloopy

Airlines offer very limited off contract compensation and in most cases what they can offer isn't close to enough. They can't hire into a seperate A+ scale. They can pay hotels for training and things like that, but even signing bonuses can be challenged.

Your main point of some free for all high ball bidding fantasy at the majors if we got rid of the regionals and we all would make 400K a year still isn't close to reality though.

What baffles me is the Herculean lack of effort that's (not) being applied at doing anything at the bottom end. DL sold its little flight academy and none of them are doing anything other than lobying for dramatically overpriced college programs to be able to knock off a few hundred hours. That isn't even close to the spool up at the bottom end that's needed. Besides you could set up a votech style school with older planes and none of the overpriced nonsense and get wet commercials left and right while building your own supply and demand for CFI's to the point that 1500 hours wouldn't be an issue anyway. A few hundred hours at a busy flight school is only a few extra months.

Instead the best and brightest in the industry are fiddling while the brushfires spread. Oh well.

Piklepausepull

I just wish someone from Dalpa would check the insane reroutes occasionally!

Tracking just this week changed the rotations of not less than 8 crewmembers thru reroute just to get a maint. ferry to ATL, when it would have been simple to just DH 2 crew to fly the flight back!

Mesabah

They can't do anything about it, it's a regional shortage. Delta can't spend money to train someone at Skywest, and then two weeks later said person is flying for UAL. Ab-intio only works if the pilot is going to mainline.

This is why I say the clock is ticking on DCI, as these other carriers besides 9E, have to choose which contracts they want to cover. Since the ASA's with Delta are written in favor of DAL, they will be dropped first.

EasyVictor

Does anyone that live in the Coweta, Fayette, or Fulton county have a set of 737NG cockpit posters I could use. PM me if you feel like being a Good Samaritan.

LivingTheDream

Lost track of the 330 bunk situation... Do all the 330's have bunks now or is it a mix of some bunks and some seats?... And if it's a mix, what's the mix?

Part two...

For any one who has gone from a career of boeing to the 330, what was the transition like?

Thanks in advance.