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Old 08-21-2014, 08:40 AM
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Great article in Aviation Week awhile back concerning the new engine maintenance program that Airbus has been able to squeeze out of the engine supplier for the A 340-600. According to them, the cost for four engines has been brought in line with those of the twin engine wide body variety. If'n so...it could be a major factor in keeping the rumor alive.
Here's another article that outlines some of the facts concerning the engine deal...as well as A340-600 future...

Airbus, engine OEMs make the case for A340 future | Leeham News and Comment
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Old 08-21-2014, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DogWhisperer View Post
Great article in Aviation Week awhile back concerning the new engine maintenance program that Airbus has been able to squeeze out of the engine supplier for the A 340-600. According to them, the cost for four engines has been brought in line with those of the twin engine wide body variety. If'n so...it could be a major factor in keeping the rumor alive.
Why would they not simply purchase a better airframe like the 330?
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Old 08-21-2014, 09:40 AM
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Good idea, that being done you could increase the gross weight with the savings. Which two?
Two and four. You could replace them with drop tanks and fly it for 30 hours.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Why would they not simply purchase a better airframe like the 330?
Or 350? Maybe a stellar lease deal on orphan 346's for the lift until said RFP replacement starts to show. Sweetening the pot similar to rumored 744 deal on supposedly parked 4 aircraft
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:22 AM
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Why would they not simply purchase a better airframe like the 330?
Delta management disagrees with me, but there are some/several routes for which etops doesn't or shouldn't apply. For training use only doesn't change my mind on that.

None of my opinion defends the dog that is the 340.

One other aspect of the 340 that I mentioned awhile ago is the delta aircraft part out/ salvage yard business. I would guess there is significant parts commonality with the 330. Some individual parts are worth what dal would be getting the airframes for.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:45 AM
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Two and four. You could replace them with drop tanks and fly it for 30 hours.
I was thinking three and four, because fewer people would bid it and I'd be more senior on it.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:47 AM
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One of these days, me and Timbo are going to get to do a ferry flight of an empty LR...it'll make the 787-9 takeoff angle look lame. We will also make the first turnoff in ATL when we land.
I bet Timbo could land 26R and take TWY D...


...and then taxi straight to a gate on ramp 6N and when questioned why he didn't park on F like he was supposed to, he'll say, "**** you" and walk off. Slowly. Slowly walk off, troll off if you will, like David Ortiz.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:47 AM
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One of these days, me and Timbo are going to get to do a ferry flight of an empty LR...it'll make the 787-9 takeoff angle look lame. We will also make the first turnoff in ATL when we land.
To steal a quote from "A Christmas Story".....

"Oh yeah, I DOUBLE-DOG dare ya"!
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Interesting that alfaromeo loves to accuse me of telling whoppers.

The fences were 20 years, not 18.



I recall no such effort to extend the fences beyond 20 years. If there were, I never heard of it and will gladly apologize upon the showing of proof.



There were no such lifetime protections for either pilot group...since the 20 year fences applied to both pilot groups.



Again, I recall no such arbitration to extend fences beyond 20 years. But will gladly apologize upon showing of proof.



The green guys started occupying the top of the whale list well before the fences came down because the fences only applied to our original whales, not post merger whales. Since our merger went straight date of hire, they rightly occupied the top of the list...before the fences came down.

The fences came down in 2006 and I didn't join APC until 2008. How could you have tracked my "militancy" before I got here?

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Carl. You and Alfa REAAALLLLLLLYYYY need to get a room!

GTFO it already! It's time to move on! Where's Jerry with more rumors?!?!?!?!
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL View Post
Or 350? Maybe a stellar lease deal on orphan 346's for the lift until said RFP replacement starts to show. Sweetening the pot similar to rumored 744 deal on supposedly parked 4 aircraft
I think what everyone is missing is management does not want any more widebodies at the moment. If they did want them to quote RA, "I can have any widebody being built on the property in 6 months".

I do really hope I am wrong on this!
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