Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Sorry to hear you are parking 747s.
Out of curiosity, where are they currently based and where do they fly?
Out of curiosity, where are they currently based and where do they fly?
RTR. But if our defense doesn't improve we are going to get schwacked by the rest of the SEC.
Shut the f up. You are starting to sound like a gaturd fan. Ya'll will be fine. I would worry much more about that Kiffin offense. And BTW... You're welcome for that, but I wanna know what UT did in a former life to warrant the bad Karma we get from that guy............
T, did you watch the game? Offense looked pretty good. Sims looked like he owned that team. Line did well and receivers were terrific minus that one drop. Defense looked terrible first half. Run D stiffened up in the second half but our CBs are suspect. Hill and TAMU would have cut us to ribbons. Hell UGA is looking good too. Nick's got some coachin' to do.
They are all DTW based- mostly Asia flying. They are doing TLV for another few weeks.
Have you guys parked anymore whales post bankruptcy? It's my understanding that they are sticking around on the UA side for a while. I should have clarified the other day on my post that I meant current plans to park your whales.
And LETS GO NOLES!!!
You mean besides your cheerleaders hacking the DPA website?
Carl
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Can we continue our discussion from the other thread on your proposal to make productivity concessions in C2015 in exchange for pay rate increases? You proposed that we:
"Flex more hours it would be for 4 months a year"
How many jobs would your proposal cost and how much is that worth?
For money. Plain and simple.
ALPA needs to realize that constructive engagement has ceased to yield benefits for the pilots and is being used by management to neutralize our bargaining power. Its exactly what Richard Anderson candidly admitted, "labor risk has been completely taken off the table".
Every time we sign one of these LOAs that helps management we are sacrificing the opportunity for a little "self help" that doesn't require authorization from the NMB. A little "mini-strike".
Delta isn't bankrupt anymore. They are making money hand over fist while we are still trying to get back to our pre-bankruptcy compensation levels. We need to monetize these deals and take 90% of the savings for ourselves.
This 747 surplus is a perfect example. There is a reason that Dickson said he looks forward to engaging the association to talk about mitigating displacements. Its because they are expensive and he wants to reduce that cost.
Let's say its going to cost the company $50 million to follow the contract. They figure they can "engage" their DALPA friends and push through an ER program that solves the surpluses and only costs the company $20 million. They save $30 million. Management and the union sell it as a win for the pilots because we've avoided the dreaded displacements.
My view is that we should demand roughly $29.9 million to accept the deal. We should avoid the displacements AND take the savings. But DALPA never does. They always use uncertainty and fear of the future to rationalize helping the company in exchange for far too little in return.
I am tired of hearing how little bargaining power we have. It simply isn't true. This corporation is wildly profitable and its largely due to our sacrifices. No more "engaging" until we get paid.
ALPA needs to realize that constructive engagement has ceased to yield benefits for the pilots and is being used by management to neutralize our bargaining power. Its exactly what Richard Anderson candidly admitted, "labor risk has been completely taken off the table".
Every time we sign one of these LOAs that helps management we are sacrificing the opportunity for a little "self help" that doesn't require authorization from the NMB. A little "mini-strike".
Delta isn't bankrupt anymore. They are making money hand over fist while we are still trying to get back to our pre-bankruptcy compensation levels. We need to monetize these deals and take 90% of the savings for ourselves.
This 747 surplus is a perfect example. There is a reason that Dickson said he looks forward to engaging the association to talk about mitigating displacements. Its because they are expensive and he wants to reduce that cost.
Let's say its going to cost the company $50 million to follow the contract. They figure they can "engage" their DALPA friends and push through an ER program that solves the surpluses and only costs the company $20 million. They save $30 million. Management and the union sell it as a win for the pilots because we've avoided the dreaded displacements.
My view is that we should demand roughly $29.9 million to accept the deal. We should avoid the displacements AND take the savings. But DALPA never does. They always use uncertainty and fear of the future to rationalize helping the company in exchange for far too little in return.
I am tired of hearing how little bargaining power we have. It simply isn't true. This corporation is wildly profitable and its largely due to our sacrifices. No more "engaging" until we get paid.
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