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09-16-2014, 05:37 AM
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Perhaps a limit, if .05% of the pilots want the CDOs, than make that the max allowed limit +/- a small percentage, same for 5/12/13 days.
09-16-2014, 06:08 AM
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CDOs have no place in major airline ops. They are onerous at best. And if allowed, will have a ripple effect throughout the bid packages as trips are changed to allow for the CDOs. We need to protect what we have, for example; Some people want to sell their vacations... should we permit that? Just for those who want to? Would it affect others?
09-16-2014, 06:40 AM
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A majority of FOs can get in via the backdoor. If you're on the ATL 717 you can't, you can try, but it just won't happen.
09-16-2014, 06:47 AM
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Just got the text msg. F/Os up.
09-16-2014, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
CDOs have no place in major airline ops. They are onerous at best. And if allowed, will have a ripple effect throughout the bid packages as trips are changed to allow for the CDOs. We need to protect what we have, for example; Some people want to sell their vacations... should we permit that? Just for those who want to? Would it affect others?
There was much outcry, so we got rid of it in C2K.
But what we have today with PBS 100% vacation sell back! In every vacation month, after the bid run your vacation time goes away (off your max pickup), so you can white slip a trip to 'replace' 100% of your vacation time, in effect, you just sold it all back.
If you want to hear the company (and many pilots) really scream, just tell them you want to eliminate that feature in C2015!
09-16-2014, 07:16 AM
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09-16-2014, 07:23 AM
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Have CQ coming up and the FO has a Z next to the sim type. IE: 601Z. Any ideas what that means?
09-16-2014, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
CDOs have no place in major airline ops. They are onerous at best. And if allowed, will have a ripple effect throughout the bid packages as trips are changed to allow for the CDOs. We need to protect what we have, for example; Some people want to sell their vacations... should we permit that? Just for those who want to? Would it affect others?
Motion seconded.
09-16-2014, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Have CQ coming up and the FO has a Z next to the sim type. IE: 601Z. Any ideas what that means?
09-16-2014, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
To be fair and balanced though, there was definitely a huge failure at the MEC level to not communicate to the wider pilot group that they were actually negotiating these things. There was no reason to keep the CDO's a secret.
In any case, it's just like you said... huge failure at the MEC level. Or more accurately, their plan to slip these things past us didn't work.
Originally Posted by Check Essential
Thankfully there were enough guys paying attention at the ratification meeting to get the word out the day before the MEC voted.
If it wasn't for this forum we would have CDO's in our contract right now.
If it wasn't for this forum we would have CDO's in our contract right now.
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