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Old 10-26-2014, 03:52 AM
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Don't forget about 23 U.1.c., which states that a long call pilot who gets a GS for a trip with less than 12 hours to report on an on-call day gets paid above the guarantee for that duty period.
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Old 10-26-2014, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore View Post
Don't forget about 23 U.1.c., which states that a long call pilot who gets a GS for a trip with less than 12 hours to report on an on-call day gets paid above the guarantee for that duty period.
You are absolutely correct. I realized my error shortly after hitting post.
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Old 10-26-2014, 06:04 AM
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What I think you are referring to is either a less than 12 hour call-out when on long call or an earlier than contractual report time on day 1.

I have had both of these pay as GS.

I believe that you are correct in the above scenarios and both of these situations would pay as a GS even though it was an "on-call" day. Other than those two situations, I am not sure that it would be a GS.

Not sure about schedulers letting you move an X day to an on call day but its worth a try.

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Here's how it works: I'm on RES. Today and tomorrow are my last 2 days on call for this block, then I have 2 days off. I've put in for a blanket 4 day GS request, and I happen to get assigned one starting tomorrow (which is an on-call day). This trip has a 30 hr layo on day 2, so there is no duty period. This trip is 4 days long, the first and last days of the trip I'm on-call, and the 2 middle days are X days on my schedule.
I can request through SKEDS that one of those X days (has to be within the rotation, and not have a duty period) be moved to the first day of the rotation. In this senario, this will give me pay above guarantee on day one (hopefully high time on day one), pay and credit for day 2 (no duty period, and all credit is paid on the last day of a rotation), pay above guarantee on day 3, and pay and credit for day 4. In this case, I'm getting more money paid above guarantee (GS pay for RES), because I moved that X day from a non-duty period day, to day one. So essentially, I'm now getting 2 days paid above guarantee instead of 1. You will also receive 2 PB days for this trip.
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Old 10-26-2014, 06:34 AM
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Hey T, it looks like the Vols found a QB.
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Old 10-26-2014, 06:46 AM
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You looking for any Halloween costume ideas 80kts?
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Old 10-26-2014, 10:36 AM
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On the release policy, how EXACTLY would the agent get concurrence from the Captain, without a cockpit visit, in a way that doesn't interrupt cockpit preparations? Where would they stand, and how would they do it? When they're standing there, they know if you're in a checklist, at which point I believe they're trained not to interrupt.

I know a guy who was in the sim, recently, and in the middle of his preflight, noting the second leg was 29 minutes, tried to tell Suzie Q the instructor/A-Line that flight time was 29 minutes, at which point the instructor duplicated a scene from The Exorcist, and went into strange conniptions over the fact that this wretch had INTERRUPTED his preflight, something one NEVER does.

This is all speculative for me, of course, but I would think if I was, hypothetically a new Captain, having people calmly walk up would be a sufficient distraction, without trying to figure where the agent is, and whether they're going to get the Captain's attention by sky-writing, smoke signals, or whatever.

Seems like it's safer having the agent take a quick spin through Pilot World, than having the pilots in Agent World, around pushback. That being said, I'd reserve judgment in the policy until I saw it in action.

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Old 10-26-2014, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhino Driver View Post
Clear as mud?
It is, but the PWA says that you can only do this if all the duty periods of your GS trip fall on on-call days. (23 U.1.b. Note two)

Have you experienced otherwise?
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Old 10-26-2014, 11:11 AM
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You looking for any Halloween costume ideas 80kts?
I can't quite read the the barcode, how much for the lobstah.
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Old 10-26-2014, 12:55 PM
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I can't quite read the the barcode, how much for the lobstah.
I think it's free if you win the Heisman.
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Old 10-26-2014, 01:24 PM
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I think it's free if you win the Heisman.
It's ALL free, as long as you can out run the check out girl!
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