Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-27-2015, 06:46 AM
The Brown Dot +1
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Originally Posted by Oberon
He threatened to out someone. That's a pretty clear violation of the TOS.
What you laid out was well thought out and presented in a coherent way. He basically said "we should trade profit sharing for $5,000/year." Then he said it over and over again. I'm all for civil discussion of different ideas but it was pretty clear he was here to stir the pot.
He hadn't posted until today and then went full throttle. He admitted to having other screen names which, presumably, had already been banned. He's a troll.
What you laid out was well thought out and presented in a coherent way. He basically said "we should trade profit sharing for $5,000/year." Then he said it over and over again. I'm all for civil discussion of different ideas but it was pretty clear he was here to stir the pot.
He hadn't posted until today and then went full throttle. He admitted to having other screen names which, presumably, had already been banned. He's a troll.
01-27-2015, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Don't have the data to prove it, but I do have <10% battery remaining, and am at the shop with car, and no charg
01-27-2015, 06:58 AM
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I'm taking the family out to SLC for a week to teach my son how to ski. Where's the good snow, hotels that shuttle and reasonable lift tickets...it's been awhile for me. I need a refresher.
01-27-2015, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
He is a DAL pilot. He has a right to his viewpoints. What are annuities paying these days? A $5000/yr annuity nets you what amount monthly in retirement $35, maybe, I'll pass on that.
He posted something just believable enough to elicit response and went off on people when he got the (very predictable) response he wanted. Throw in the fact that he just started posting a few hours before he was tossed and that he admitted he had multiple user names and it adds up to troll. I'm not certain he's even a Delta pilot.
01-27-2015, 07:42 AM
Line Holder
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
You may already know this, but I learned it the hard way a couple of weeks ago: a significant difference internationally is that you cannot "convert" your non-rev listing to a JS listing ("flow forward"). Once you're within 75 minutes of push, you're stuck with whatever listing you have (or don't have). For reasons that elude me, the system cannot take a non-rev listing and put you in the JS; and we're not allowed to make two listings (i.e., one non-rev & another JS "just in case"). You can still "flow back" from the JS if there are open seats, but if you're trying to sit with your wife, that may not work out as well....
01-27-2015, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I'm taking the family out to SLC for a week to teach my son how to ski. Where's the good snow, hotels that shuttle and reasonable lift tickets...it's been awhile for me. I need a refresher.
1895 Sidewinder Drive Park City Utah 84060 for a Delta rate of $80. Give them a call. You can get a lift ticket at the PC mountain or Caynons for 15 or 20% off with Delta ID on the going rate.
We haven't got much snow this year but all the mountain is open and groomed.
01-27-2015, 08:47 AM
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[QUOTE=Jughead135;1812614]You may already know this, but I learned it the hard way a couple of weeks ago: a significant difference internationally is that you cannot "convert" your non-rev listing to a JS listing ("flow forward"). Once you're within 75 minutes of push, you're stuck with whatever listing you have (or don't have). For reasons that elude me, the system cannot take a non-rev listing and put you in the JS; and we're not allowed to make two listings (i.e., one non-rev & another JS "just in case"). You can still "flow back" from the JS if there are open seats, but if you're trying to sit with your wife, that may not work out as well....[/QUOTE]
We've been married long enough that she requests we be seated separately.
We've been married long enough that she requests we be seated separately.
01-27-2015, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Out of base white slips ahead of reserves is not a bad thing. In fact it's elimination was a concession demanded by the company. They did not want to pay a line holder to fly a trip they could have a reserve fly for free. The old system still allowed any in base reserve to move ahead of a out of base white slip if they desired a specific trip or just to fly via a yellow slip. I would have no problem with changing back to the pre bankruptcy system. Sadly such a change will be costed against us in the next contract even though it was ripped from us in chapter 11.
To be perfectly honest, I've re-read your OOBWS stuff a couple of times, and I'm confused. You're saying OOBWS ahead of Reserves is a good thing (the OP wanted them ahead of Reserve coverage in the ladder), and the company wants it. Then you say that the old system favored a Y ahead of a OOBWS, which I understand to mean the new system doesn't. Under that context, the OOBWS already is included ahead of RES. So what is the argument about, exactly?
If you're trying to say that the coverage should be WS>Y>OOBWS, then that would be acceptable.
01-27-2015, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I'm taking the family out to SLC for a week to teach my son how to ski. Where's the good snow, hotels that shuttle and reasonable lift tickets...it's been awhile for me. I need a refresher.
Have fun..
01-27-2015, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Hey sailing,
To be perfectly honest, I've re-read your OOBWS stuff a couple of times, and I'm confused. You're saying OOBWS ahead of Reserves is a good thing (the OP wanted them ahead of Reserve coverage in the ladder), and the company wants it. Then you say that the old system favored a Y ahead of a OOBWS, which I understand to mean the new system doesn't. Under that context, the OOBWS already is included ahead of RES. So what is the argument about, exactly?
If you're trying to say that the coverage should be WS>Y>OOBWS, then that would be acceptable.
To be perfectly honest, I've re-read your OOBWS stuff a couple of times, and I'm confused. You're saying OOBWS ahead of Reserves is a good thing (the OP wanted them ahead of Reserve coverage in the ladder), and the company wants it. Then you say that the old system favored a Y ahead of a OOBWS, which I understand to mean the new system doesn't. Under that context, the OOBWS already is included ahead of RES. So what is the argument about, exactly?
If you're trying to say that the coverage should be WS>Y>OOBWS, then that would be acceptable.
The change was a concession the company demanded in the 1113 contract so they could better manage pilot utilization.
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