Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-31-2015, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
And other Captains. And he's a great dude.
Toughen up princess.
Carl
Toughen up princess.
Carl
Corp pretax profit 10% up to 2.5B 20% over 2.5B split by the non management employees in proportion to your pay. Our pay is defined as the flight pay (hrs flown/credited,in training,vacation pay)... Pensionable meaning you get an additional 15% times the PS to defined contribution accounts and any excess over 415 limit to cash. Comes about Valentines's day unless DAL decides to pay early... Oct last year. Are you happy now? Welcome on board. 8.26% earned for 2013 and 16.54% for 2014. Never count on airline industry profits as guaranteed. Never. Again, congrats and glad to have you. OFG
01-31-2015, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
They are in the American section of the forum.
$336 on the 747A 1/1/19.
Their MD 80 pays 14% more than our MD 88 1/1/16.
Their A 330 pays 15% more than ours 1/1/16.
$336 on the 747A 1/1/19.
Their MD 80 pays 14% more than our MD 88 1/1/16.
Their A 330 pays 15% more than ours 1/1/16.
Pairing the 330 with the 777 is a win, and should help us, but leaving the 321 in their group 2 is a big loss.
They also undercut us significantly with their lack of a min/average day and no profit sharing.
I don't see their agreement helping us a whole lot. Hope I'm wrong.
01-31-2015, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by flyjetz
Is this how you treat your FO's too? 
Carl, love you man...but you still ain't gett'n my Bud Light!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeX8W7GgTdE
01-31-2015, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by OldFlyGuy
Hahaha! Complete agreement. Otherwise you have picked the wrong profession AND the wrong company.
Corp pretax profit 10% up to 2.5B 20% over 2.5B split by the non management employees in proportion to your pay. Our pay is defined as the flight pay (hrs flown/credited,in training,vacation pay)... Pensionable meaning you get an additional 15% times the PS to defined contribution accounts and any excess over 415 limit to cash. Comes about Valentines's day unless DAL decides to pay early... Oct last year. Are you happy now? Welcome on board. 8.26% earned for 2013 and 16.54% for 2014. Never count on airline industry profits as guaranteed. Never. Again, congrats and glad to have you. OFG
Corp pretax profit 10% up to 2.5B 20% over 2.5B split by the non management employees in proportion to your pay. Our pay is defined as the flight pay (hrs flown/credited,in training,vacation pay)... Pensionable meaning you get an additional 15% times the PS to defined contribution accounts and any excess over 415 limit to cash. Comes about Valentines's day unless DAL decides to pay early... Oct last year. Are you happy now? Welcome on board. 8.26% earned for 2013 and 16.54% for 2014. Never count on airline industry profits as guaranteed. Never. Again, congrats and glad to have you. OFG
01-31-2015, 08:34 AM
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Seems to me that if we monetize the PS, that would put our pay rates way above AA (and prob not as high as we would like them). Why not leave the PS as a BONUS and move our PAY rates up above AA as industry leading, just as they always have been? WS and the co don't want to see our pay rates so far above the industry avg. AA not getting PS and getting a large pay rate increase is the perfect scenario for us NOT to monetize our PS. All we need for ALPA to do is draw the line and say PS is a bonus and we need our pay rates industry leading.
01-31-2015, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Their 747/340 rate would be interesting if they actually had some or planned to get some.
Pairing the 330 with the 777 is a win, and should help us, but leaving the 321 in their group 2 is a big loss.
They also undercut us significantly with their lack of a min/average day and no profit sharing.
I don't see their agreement helping us a whole lot. Hope I'm wrong.
Pairing the 330 with the 777 is a win, and should help us, but leaving the 321 in their group 2 is a big loss.
They also undercut us significantly with their lack of a min/average day and no profit sharing.
I don't see their agreement helping us a whole lot. Hope I'm wrong.
Now getting the 321 up a category will be difficult, but not impossible.
01-31-2015, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by flyjetz
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. I'm certainly not trying to make waves. Happy as hell to be in the spot I'm in looking at a long and happy life with Delta. I'm just a bit of a data junkie, and as I make major life changes and decisions for my family and I, I'd like to have all the facts on the table.
what Delta -might- pay out for profit sharing?
Seriously?
BTW, it always will change, from year to year, because it's based on earnings and contract negotiations.
Our PAY RATES however, are pretty much fixed, so THAT is what you should be basing your life changes and decisions on.
01-31-2015, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by flyjetz
I'm certainly not trying to make waves.
With that attitude you might get elected to the Negotiating Committee.
01-31-2015, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mark350
Seems to me that if we monetize the PS, that would put our pay rates way above AA (and prob not as high as we would like them). Why not leave the PS as a BONUS and move our PAY rates up above AA as industry leading, just as they always have been? WS and the co don't want to see our pay rates so far above the industry avg. AA not getting PS and getting a large pay rate increase is the perfect scenario for us NOT to monetize our PS. All we need for ALPA to do is draw the line and say PS is a bonus and we need our pay rates industry leading.
Denny
01-31-2015, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron Jeremy
Oberon,
If he starts talking about varmit poontang, watch out!
If he starts talking about varmit poontang, watch out!
Originally Posted by Ron Jeremy
Carl, you need a handle. May I suggest "Blowing up Bushwood since 1980"
Carl
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