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Old 12-01-2015, 03:01 PM
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Old 12-01-2015, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15 View Post
You are not necessarily stuck. As the other fellas already noted, One way to change your schedule is "move X Days" but that does' change the number of Reserve days you have, it just moves them.

It sounds like you talked to scheduling about it, but the other way I didn't see discussed is Personal Drop (P/D) via PCS. That's the only way to get rid of/drop a Reserve day, but the "4-99-4" rules already discussed don't apply to a P/D. For example, you can drop the middle day of a 3-day period, and create two single days of Reserve. BUT, There has to be excess reserve on the day in question - Look in Open Time in iCrew for "Pilot Reserve Levels". If there is not a surplus in blue, you can't P/D the day (APD is different). Also, you will lose approx 1/17th of your month's pay...
I'm still fairly new, but I'm not sure if this is correct. You can P/D reserve days as long as the coverage allows it and lose that day of pay. But I'm not sure you can violate the reserve rules when you do it. So let's say you have a 3-99-4 for example. If you had a 5 day block of reserve I'm not sure you can drop the middle day of it because it would violate the 3 day rule. I'm pretty sure I've been denied a drop even though there was plenty of coverage for this reason.

If somebody knows more, please let me know but I think I've been blocked for this reason.
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Old 12-01-2015, 04:27 PM
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I'm still fairly new, but I'm not sure if this is correct. You can P/D reserve days as long as the coverage allows it and lose that day of pay. But I'm not sure you can violate the reserve rules when you do it. So let's say you have a 3-99-4 for example. If you had a 5 day block of reserve I'm not sure you can drop the middle day of it because it would violate the 3 day rule. I'm pretty sure I've been denied a drop even though there was plenty of coverage for this reason.

If somebody knows more, please let me know but I think I've been blocked for this reason.
You still can't violate the reserve rules with the PD. Once you get down to a block of 3 days of reserve, the only way to get rid of the middle day is to drop all three days. The other one that gets you is if you have a stretch of more than 7 days you sometimes cannot drop the middle days because it may create another off day grouping and you are only allowed 4 of those in a 3-99-4 category.
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:04 PM
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It's not the cause of either crash and that is why Airbus doesn't have anything to fix. There are ways to control the aircraft even if the other guy is doing something different. It's been the same system for over 30 years now. It's even more safe than a Boeing because in a Boeing it becomes a fight of who is stronger. In an Airbus you can completely isolate the other side stick. What happens in Boeing if a guy croaks and slumps over on the controls or if he is a maniac and is stronger than the other guy?

Boeings have the advantage of letting the other guy see and feel what is going on. That would be nice and it does increase SA, but this Captain knew he needed more nose down pitch. He didn't need to feel and see that through the controls. He would have gotten what he wanted had he pushed the button on the side stick or had a partner that recognized a stall and recovered properly. I say that realizing Monday morninging this deal is easy. It would suck to actually have to recover from an unusual attitude and stall in the airplane.....but we are trained to do just that almost every CQ.
I guess I misunderstood what happened. I thought they were both stalled and both had the FO full aft and the CA trying to break the stall.
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:09 PM
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You still can't violate the reserve rules with the PD. Once you get down to a block of 3 days of reserve, the only way to get rid of the middle day is to drop all three days. The other one that gets you is if you have a stretch of more than 7 days you sometimes cannot drop the middle days because it may create another off day grouping and you are only allowed 4 of those in a 3-99-4 category.
I talked with another scheduler, and this is correct. You can drop whatever you want, but you have to stay within the 4-99-4 format. As crew dang told me, It seems like you can really work it using a couple iterations of pcs to slowly get things lined up the way you want. I've been in the line for 3 months now and just figuring out you can move/drop X and reserve days. I was never the smartest fish in the pond
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy View Post
You still can't violate the reserve rules with the PD. Once you get down to a block of 3 days of reserve, the only way to get rid of the middle day is to drop all three days. The other one that gets you is if you have a stretch of more than 7 days you sometimes cannot drop the middle days because it may create another off day grouping and you are only allowed 4 of those in a 3-99-4 category.
Actually, I think with a PD as in "payback day," you can drop that middle day..

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Old 12-01-2015, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy View Post
You still can't violate the reserve rules with the PD. Once you get down to a block of 3 days of reserve, the only way to get rid of the middle day is to drop all three days. The other one that gets you is if you have a stretch of more than 7 days you sometimes cannot drop the middle days because it may create another off day grouping and you are only allowed 4 of those in a 3-99-4 category.
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Actually, I think with a PD as in "payback day," you can drop that middle day..

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I guess I was incorrect, I thought PB, PD, and APD could all break the 3-99-5 rule.

I had reserve 1-5 December and used a PB day on 3 December. I had reserve from 24-27 December and was able to use my APD on the 25th and then X-day move to get the 27th off.
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16 View Post
I guess I was incorrect, I thought PB, PD, and APD could all break the 3-99-5 rule.

I had reserve 1-5 December and used a PB day on 3 December. I had reserve from 24-27 December and was able to use my APD on the 25th and then X-day move to get the 27th off.
I'm confused; you said you can't violate the 3-99-5 . . . but you successfully turned reserve of December 1 2 3 4 5 into reserve of December 1 2 Xday 4 5 ?

The December 1st/2nd and 4th/5th are 2-day workblocks which would violate the grouping rule. So you were able to do that with the payback day?
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:57 PM
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For good or just for the next trip? I've fully embraced the selective slam clicker lifestyle. Haven't quite built up the courage to go full on slam clicker.
I might be selective. But then that's hard because the 71 guys are pretty darn good and I'll never click my slam. On a 30 hour I just want to go on a nice long walk, eat a $10 dinner that is worth $10 instead of $40 for a $10 and go to bed.

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Old 12-02-2015, 02:47 AM
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Sleepy introverts unite!
A big 'ol introverted 'he11 yeah!' to that!
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