It could mean that. If it were to happen, Superdad, I am sorry to say that best guess right now is a few hundred at most. Now there are no numbers for the NWA side of things.
Fact is that many of the people in the know do not see it happening. I just hope they are correct.
See, as I have pointed out in the past, the CPZ flow adds a lot of time on the the ROI for a furlough. Add to that all of the training that is going on and will be going on the next few years, it may just make more sense to keep the extra fat. We are already very lean, so cutting may not make sense. We have a long way to go to be anywhere near as over staffed as we were in 2001.
Just sit tight, we all still have jobs.
We have been told that we are lean, which is pretty common for us. I think the economy will have to continue to go south for the furlough plan to be executed. It just doesn't fit in right now. There are too many other things that they have to spend $$$ on, and I don't think they want to add to that by furloughing. I just hope it stays that way. I don't know how fast this economy can turn around, but I hope it starts soon.
the nwa side is lean, and short in some categories and thats before the DAL staffing model. There will be more displacements to adjust the fleets staffing but we will not be overstaffed because they are working to increase block hours on certain fleets. Staffing needs are based on block hours and not fleet sizes. lets just hope the increases we have coming up will continue to offset the cuts. I feel pretty good that the NWA side wont have any issues. We may see a wash in the numbers with the changes coming up where we would have seen shortages before the cuts. not to mention the cost involved with flowbacks also. We'll see
I think the age 65 rule froze the industry for 5 years. That being said once 2012 comes and goes, the whole age 65 rule will just be a memory.
In the long run, it's adding 5 years to everyone's' career any way you look at it. (Bearing everyone wants to work until age 65)
By the time 2012 rolls around the age limit will be eliminated all together. Now that the dam has been broken, STS, there will be lawsuits claiming an arbitrary age limit is unconstitutional based on the 14th amendment. If you look at it objectively, once they raised it once, there is no legal or Constitutional basis for an age limit. It will be argued that if one can maintain the medical qualifications it would be age discrimination to remove an older worker in favor of a younger one at a reduced cost. The new administration will support it and the Supremes will find in favor of removing the limit. Just my prediction.
By the time 2012 rolls around the age limit will be eliminated all together. Now that the dam has been broken, STS, there will be lawsuits claiming an arbitrary age limit is unconstitutional based on the 14th amendment. If you look at it objectively, once they raised it once, there is no legal or Constitutional basis for an age limit. It will be argued that if one can maintain the medical qualifications it would be age discrimination to remove an older worker in favor of a younger one at a reduced cost. The new administration will support it and the Supremes will find in favor of removing the limit. Just my prediction.
I wouldn't be too worried about the current administration eliminating the age limitation all together, as I am sure they will be busy enough spending that stimulus package.
Honestly, I don't think it will happen though. While there is no legal or Constitutional basis for an age limit, there has always been a age limit in place. I think it's safe to say that, in general, when people reach a certain age they become less sharp. I'm sure this varies from person to person, depending on personal health and lifestyle.
I think we all could learn alot from the senior pilots who have passed before us with years of experience, but I think they eventually comes a time when the buck needs to be passed.
If we eliminate age limitations altogether, our airline industry will become as bad as this country's education system where a teacher's tenure has become an award for complacency, ineffectiveness, and laziness.
So I head to ATL for recurrent today and I gotta tell ya' I had forgotten just how depressing and nasty the Comfort Inn really is. At the least the beers are big and cold in La Fiesta!
So I head to ATL for recurrent today and I gotta tell ya' I had forgotten just how depressing and nasty the Comfort Inn really is. At the least the beers are big and cold in La Fiesta!
Wait until the karaoke kicks in - you won't be saying how nice the beers are! It's really loud - really.
Honestly, I don't think it will happen though. While there is no legal or Constitutional basis for an age limit, there has always been a age limit in place. I think it's safe to say that, in general, when people reach a certain age they become less sharp. I'm sure this varies from person to person, depending on personal health and lifestyle.
I think we all could learn alot from the senior pilots who have passed before us with years of experience, but I think they eventually comes a time when the buck needs to be passed.
If we eliminate age limitations altogether, our airline industry will become as bad as this country's education system where a teacher's tenure has become an award for complacency, ineffectiveness, and laziness.
That is the exact argument they will use. If one can pass an FAA physical and an FAA check ride, why should one be fired when reaching an arbitrary age? The mandatory Social Security retirement age is up to 72 now, i think? I don't see how one could argue that there is a legitimate state interest in denying someone his/her livelihood simply based on age.
The one caveat I hope is put in place is a more stringent Class I medical. That my end up reducing the numbers of senior pilots more that the 65 rule.
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