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Old 08-03-2011, 08:03 PM   #72961 (permalink)
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We're not going down the "hiding money" path again, are we?
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You're unbelievable. I truly hope you are not representative of the guys we have representing us. If so, we're screwed.
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:58 PM   #72962 (permalink)
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Hey Guys, How much of a bump do we get for Reroute Pay?
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:13 PM   #72963 (permalink)
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Hey Guys, How much of a bump do we get for Reroute Pay?
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8. A rerouted regular pilot who is not scheduled to release within four hours of the scheduled release of the last duty period of his original rotation, or within the same calendar day of the last duty period of his original rotation, whichever is later, (the “time limitation”) will receive single pay and credit (or the applicable pay, no credit for a GS, GSWC, IA or IAWC) for the rotation as flown, plus half pay no credit for any duty period(s) that extends beyond such time limitation.

Exception one: If such rerouted pilot is not scheduled to release at his base within such time limitation due to a circumstance over which the Company does not have control (e.g., pilot’s origin or destination airport closed, weather on pilot’s routing, mechanical on pilot’s assigned aircraft) he will receive only single pay and credit (or the applicable pay, no credit for a GS, GSWC, IA or IAWC) for the rotation as flown.
Exception two: The time limitation will be 30 hours for an international category pilot when rerouted into, or while in, trans-oceanic operations.
Exception three: A rerouted pilot who is scheduled to be released at his base beyond the time limitation will not be entitled to premium pay if he is again rerouted for the purpose of releasing him at his base within the time limitation.

9. A rerouted reserve pilot who is not scheduled to release within four hours of the scheduled release of the last duty period of his original rotation will receive single pay and credit (or the applicable pay, no credit for a GS, GSWC, IA or IAWC) for the rotation as flown, plus half pay no credit (in addition to any other form of pay for the bid period) for any duty period that extends beyond such four hour limitation and into either:
a. an X-day, or
b. a regular line day-off.
Exception one: If such rerouted pilot is not scheduled to release at his base within such four hour time limitation due to a circumstance over which the Company does not have control (e.g., pilot’s origin or destination airport closed, weather on pilot’s routing, mechanical on pilot’s assigned aircraft) he will receive only single pay and credit (or the applicable pay, no credit for a GS, GSWC, IA or IAWC) for the rotation as flown.
Exception two: The time limitation will be 30 hours for an international category pilot when rerouted into, or while in, trans-oceanic operations.
Exception three: A rerouted pilot who is scheduled to be released at his base beyond the time limitation will not be entitled to premium pay if he is again rerouted for the purpose of releasing him at his base within the time limitation.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:21 PM   #72964 (permalink)
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It is a good start, but not much help for a reserve guy
Nope, you're right about that unless it's bumped.

I could accept it if it's a 78 hour pay for reserve pilots, credit for SC, 15% pay raise and 15% yoy as long as scope remains status quo. I could accept 15% initially and 15% the second year and then 10% yoy if scope is strengthened.
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Old 08-03-2011, 09:57 PM   #72966 (permalink)
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Close, 2008. I wouldn't get mad if she ate crackers in bed.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:17 PM   #72968 (permalink)
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Do you guys and gals honestly think the current scope will hold strong?! I have read time and time again on this board how scope should be the strongest part of the new contract! But lets all be honest and admit that most 50+ year olds don't have anything to do with internet message boards; let alone any of these forums! I know the bottom 30% believes in this philosophy, but how about the 70% that may be willing to allow the 50 seater to be replaced by a 70+ seat RJ in order to get a large pay raise? I hope for everyone involved you guys can hold strong! I would love to have the opportunity to be a real "Delta" pilot!
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Do you guys and gals honestly think the current scope will hold strong?! I have read time and time again on this board how scope should be the strongest part of the new contract! But lets all be honest and admit that most 50+ year olds don't have anything to do with internet message boards; let alone any of these forums! I know the bottom 30% believes in this philosophy, but how about the 70% that may be willing to allow the 50 seater to be replaced by a 70+ seat RJ in order to get a large pay raise? I hope for everyone involved you guys can hold strong! I would love to have the opportunity to be a real "Delta" pilot!
I can promise you that any scope giveback will be quickly and harshly dealt with before it can be brought to vote.

A quick look at the contract comparison that was distributed recently illustrates that point sharply. The airline with the worst scope (usair) has the lowest pay of anyone. The airlines with the best scope (fedex, ups, southwest) have the highest pay.

While some may be too ignorant to see that... I'm at least educating all captains that I fly with that the FO's in those fast taxiing clown cars make as much or more than them.
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Old 08-03-2011, 10:54 PM   #72970 (permalink)
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I can promise you that any scope giveback will be quickly and harshly dealt with before it can be brought to vote.
How can you promise this!?!? What will most pilots honestly say if the agreement is to allow a 50 to be replaced by a 76 seater as long as you guys get a 30 percent raise! I am not saying allowing more brand new large RJ's, but what about replacing older 50's for more viable 900's!
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