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Old 08-04-2011, 11:07 AM   #73011 (permalink)
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If anybody sees a crater on 3R in DTW, I just put it there.
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:09 AM   #73012 (permalink)
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Hey Past,

This effectively limits scope a/c to Caravan, and F27 turboprops.....except for peak relief which is contractual and generates penalty dollars paid by the company.....is this still correct ?

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I think Mountain Air Cargo flies ATR's in FedEx paint.
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:26 AM   #73013 (permalink)
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Hey Past,

This effectively limits scope a/c to Caravan, and F27 turboprops.....except for peak relief which is contractual and generates penalty dollars paid by the company.....is this still correct ?

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I remember seeing the Kalitta whales doing the santa claus extra lift over the holidays... I was always interested to know what sort of contractual obligations there were to the FDX pilots with those wet leases.
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:29 AM   #73014 (permalink)
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Riddle me this??? Did you use reduced thrust?

It is for this exact reason that I have somewhat changed my philosophy on the use of assumed temperature and derated thrust on the 737-800. I think the AWABS people have been overdoing it a bit lately. There's no reason we have to be using the whole runway on every takeoff. This whole balanced field thing is OK but there are some airports I'd prefer to get up and out of there or have a little more cushion if we ever do have to abort at high speed.
I used to automatically use the top line. No longer. Now I give a closer look to the RATOW and climb limits.

Did a takeoff out of ATL the other day with a double de-rate and geez...
Southwest taxis with more thrust than we had.
Used up the whole 27R and we weren't even that heavy.
I'm fine using reduced thrust... I've always examined the RATOW and climb limits along with the captain to make sure we're not too close. The 700 is a particularly good performer. It's pretty funny (and fun!) getting to climb power and seeing an 8 or 9% increase in N1.

The takeoff out of MEX in question was full power and bleeds off!
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:11 PM   #73015 (permalink)
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Do you guys and gals honestly think the current scope will hold strong?! I have read time and time again on this board how scope should be the strongest part of the new contract! But lets all be honest and admit that most 50+ year olds don't have anything to do with internet message boards; let alone any of these forums! I know the bottom 30% believes in this philosophy, but how about the 70% that may be willing to allow the 50 seater to be replaced by a 70+ seat RJ in order to get a large pay raise? I hope for everyone involved you guys can hold strong! I would love to have the opportunity to be a real "Delta" pilot!
I was just sitting near two 50+ captains in atl. Both had lanyards on that had a one word statement. "SCOPE" I think our pilots have had enough taken and are ready to fight.
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I think Mountain Air Cargo flies ATR's in FedEx paint.
Hey Johnso,

Ready, shoot, aim.....as usual , I misspoke. I believe the F27's have been replaced by 26 ATR42's.....operated by Mountain air Cargo for FDX.
Still under the 60,000 lb/gw xcope limit.

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Old 08-04-2011, 12:24 PM   #73017 (permalink)
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Hey Johnso,

Ready, shoot, aim.....as usual , I misspoke. I believe the F27's have been replaced by 26 ATR42's.....operated by Mountain air Cargo for FDX.
Still under the 60,000 lb/gw xcope limit.

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I'm almost positive there was ATR-72's in Memphis the other day as well as 42's fwiw
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I'm almost positive there was ATR-72's in Memphis the other day as well as 42's fwiw
Super,

Where ya' been , son ? Could be some 72's now.....they are still under the 60k g/w limit.
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I was just sitting near two 50+ captains in atl. Both had lanyards on that had a one word statement. "SCOPE" I think our pilots have had enough taken and are ready to fight.
Now if only our union leadership was ready to fight ... but I digress.

I'll be 52 next month. Scope is a non-starter for me. I don't care what kind of pay increase they dangle in front of us. If it includes any kind of concession on scope, it's a BIG NO!
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Now if only our union leadership was ready to fight ... but I digress.

I'll be 52 next month. Scope is a non-starter for me. I don't care what kind of pay increase they dangle in front of us. If it includes any kind of concession on scope, it's a BIG NO!
Me too, DAL88. Me too.

And I also obviously have more confidence in our union leadership than you, as I think they nearly universally agree as well. I have ZERO concerns that we will see a scope sale on any upcoming contract or LOA. ZERO.
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