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Old 08-24-2011, 06:32 AM   #74181 (permalink)
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Funny you should say that. The DCI carrier at which I work (I don't want to reveal too much, but it's the one whose primary hub is SLC...) used to display the company name proudly on the nose, in like 18 inch letters or something. Now, at the direction of Delta, I believe, the company name has been reduced to a barely visible sticker with the airplane equivalent of 10pt. font.
When the latest paint scheme first came out and RJ's started being painted in it, we had the chance to impact this in a positive way (for us) and DALPA just looked the other way. Our contract states the following: "Delta Connection flying aircraft will only bear the name “Delta” as part of a phrase referencing a Connection-type operation." Clearly, the current paint scheme on DCI aircraft does not use "DELTA" as part of a phrase. The term "Connection" is much lower on the fuselage and in much smaller font (and can't even be seen from the terminal when parked at a jetway)... an obvious attempt to hide the fact that it is not a Delta aircraft.

There's a reason we put that language in our contract. And, obviously, that reason is to prevent Delta from passing off DCI flights as Delta flights. More specifically, it is to prevent Delta from passing off non-Delta pilots as Delta pilots. But I guess our MEC, under Lee Moak, didn't think that part of our contract was worth enforcing. Their excuse at the time was, "it's in compliance." Well here's what I think of that:

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Old 08-24-2011, 06:32 AM   #74182 (permalink)
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Sounds good, cept that if that changes the password for iCrew, does that also change it for the dial-in phone system? I've always had an all numeric password so my phone can speed dial it. Will that screw that up?
I use a 4-digit pin...haven't tested it yet but I don't think it's changed. I typically use it to deviate from deadhead.
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:34 AM   #74183 (permalink)
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Delta Airlines Signs Letter Promising to Not Ask Customers Their Religious Affiliation

Aug 23, 2011

Delta Airlines denied allegations Tuesday that it currently, or will in the future, ask customers to state their religion before boarding a flight.

In a letter to the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a Jewish museum in Los Angeles, the company said its employees will not seek information regarding religious affiliation on behalf of any SkyTeam partner.

The controversy began in June, when the airline reportedly entered an agreement with Saudi Arabia that critics said could potentially prohibit American Jews from flying into the country.

Delta, which has been trying to build its Middle East brand, immediately denied the charges. The Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington also told Fox Newsthat allegations that Jews are not allowed in the country are complete nonsense.

But some critics said Saudi Arabia maintains a longstanding policy of religious discrimination. These critics questioned the airlines new relationship with Saudi Arabian Airlines, which joined the 14-member SkyTeam Alliance.

Critics also say the Saudi government requires travelers to disclose their religion, and a Delta spokesperson said that the airline must comply with all applicable laws in every country it serves.

The statement was seen by some as a capitulation from the airline.

The company was the focal point of an open letter written by Rabbi Abraham Cooper, the associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, that appeared on FoxNews.com.

What would happen if a leading U.S. carrier voluntarily allows itself to be hijacked by bigots in order to open a new market? Cooper asked. For example, what if it entered into an agreement with a foreign airline that would see to it that no blacks or Catholics or gays boarded code-shared flights destined to reach the partners home nation?

I think you know the answer, he wrote.

After the article was published, Delta officials met with Cooper in Los Angeles. Cooper later said that Delta "has now" done the right thing.

"We hope that all other U.S.-based airlines and around the world will declare and follow a similar policy," the statement said.
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:35 AM   #74184 (permalink)
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I use a 4-digit pin...haven't tested it yet but I don't think it's changed. I typically use it to deviate from deadhead.
Yeah, I use it a good bit. On reserve, it's easier to check my sched after a trip on the phone running to my commute rather than going down to a computer.
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:48 AM   #74185 (permalink)
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When the latest paint scheme first came out and RJ's started being painted in it, we had the chance to impact this in a positive way (for us) and DALPA just looked the other way. Our contract states the following: "Delta Connection flying aircraft will only bear the name “Delta” as part of a phrase referencing a Connection-type operation." Clearly, the current paint scheme on DCI aircraft does not use "DELTA" as part of a phrase. The term "Connection" is much lower on the fuselage and in much smaller font (and can't even be seen from the terminal when parked at a jetway)... an obvious attempt to hide the fact that it is not a Delta aircraft.

There's a reason we put that language in our contract. And, obviously, that reason is to prevent Delta from passing off DCI flights as Delta flights. More specifically, it is to prevent Delta from passing off non-Delta pilots as Delta pilots. But I guess our MEC, under Lee Moak, didn't think that part of our contract was worth enforcing. Their excuse at the time was, "it's in compliance." Well here's what I think of that:
Tis true, they made the connection part as invisible as possible. This goes back to the fact that I truly believe they don't think we're very good at our job. Hence, replace us on the bottom, in the middle and at the top.



^^^^ FWIW, this is an Embraer E-175. When tower tells you to follow the Embraer E-175, don't argue with the pilot next to you as the Embraer taxis by and say "that's an Airbus, we're supposed to follow an Embraer." Yeah, I know I'm speaking to the choir here though but still, basic aircraft identification should be the simplest part of the job. I mean is that a 737-800 or a 739 or a DC-9-40 or -50? You get a pass on that, but everyone should easily recognize the 732 replacement fleet.



The best part about the word connection on the CRJ-900 is that when it's at the gate and the service door is open you don't see "connection."

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Old 08-24-2011, 07:52 AM   #74186 (permalink)
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Tis true, they made the connection part as invisible as possible. This goes back to the fact that I truly believe they don't think we're very good at our job. Hence, replace us on the bottom, in the middle and at the top.



^^^^ FWIW, this is an Embraer E-175. When tower tells you to follow the Embraer E-175, don't argue with the pilot next to you as the Embraer taxis by and say "that's an Airbus, we're supposed to follow an Embraer." Yeah, I know I'm speaking to the choir here though but still, basic aircraft identification should be the simplest part of the job. I mean is that a 737-800 or a 739 or a DC-9-40 or -50? You get a pass on that, but everyone should easily recognize the 732 replacement fleet.



The best part about the word connection on the CRJ-900 is that when it's at the gate and the service door is open you don't see "connection."

Yep, but you do see "Conne" which is french for "Con" as in Con game, I think
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Yep, but you do see "Conne" which is french for "Con" as in Con game, I think
That's not a half bad idea nwa, let's start calling it Delta Con.
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That's not a half bad idea nwa, let's start calling it Delta Con.
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SWA hate aside, I hope they dominate us in the eyes of the consumer on any and every outsourced route.
Sadly, this is the only hope we (DAL) have of them noticing what a garbage product GoJets and others are providing, and unfortunately it might take them (MGMT) a while to catch on.

My future is heavily vested in DAL's success, so that's why I use the term "we."
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Are they Comair jets? If so, why not a group grievance?
Don't know enough about it for a grievance opinion, why I was asking the expert. Well, that and making sure I'm not slipping over the conspiracy theorists ledge.

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