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Old 11-22-2011, 07:15 PM   #81321 (permalink)
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Speaking of cars, I kid you not, the boss' airport car in the hangar:



My understanding was the price was $300K.

He bought it because I guess he had to in order to get in line to buy the one he really wanted which if I remember right was 1/2 the price of the Sedan.



When he put the hood down on that car you saw more doors open and then close then I think on a 747. But man once it closed you had no idea where that roof had gone.

Anyways, I needed to drive it more than I did. The Mercedes coupe/sportscar had problems because it wasn't driven enough so much that it wouldn't lift up so you could drive it off. Got it towed. I needed to drive the Ferrari airport car as well but didn't so it had a dead battery. Which I replaced. Again the Ferrari he owned was to get in line for another Ferrari... Spider? So that thing just hung out in the corner. I locked myself out of it by accident when I was doing the battery. With help from a car guru down the street I was able to get back into it by pulling a cord under the front section. Neat trick.

See I'm not a car guy. Truck guy. Don't fit in sports cars. So I wasn't keen on this whole thing. In fact the first time I saw the Bentley all I saw the big B. Boss sells Buicks, so... "is that a Buick?" Luckily I asked the other pilot before the boss got out and he was sharp enough to say "don't say another word." "roger."

BUT, as to driving them around I'm not an idiot. Even if the car needed exercise I'd rather bang my head against the wall in fear of what would happen driving those cars around the trashy side of Gwinnett county. Besides the Ferrari had paddles, don't know how those work and if I should learn on a Ferrari.

I was forced to drive them though and when I did it was great and it was one hell of a car to pull into. But I have to say the $70K Denali was really nice as well. Just as nice on the road and interior noise. Both had big engines but were super quiet.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:16 PM   #81322 (permalink)
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I remember that grey Intrepid! It was a permanent fixture at KAUO.
Both me and the intrepid were there too much.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:18 PM   #81323 (permalink)
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Betcha didn't know ford and chevy 3/4 ton and larger use gm frames. Yield management.
Why am I not surprised. Probably made in Mexico though right?

I will say that we dumped the Accord not long after I nailed a deer on the way to work with the truck. It was right at dawn and I was looking for deer and still hit it. It was about the width of the truck. Never hit the brakes doing about 55mph. As I put on the brakes I remember seeing it still in the air and above the car but off to the side. Landed about 30' off the road in a ditch.

Cost me $60 to replace the front grill. $100 if I hadn't bought it from someone in the family who sold parts. Had that been the Accord...

To keep this relevant to Delta, I was on the way to the simulators.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:24 PM   #81324 (permalink)
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I know this is not about the Odyssey but because you mentioned it I want to talk about it.

I have a gorgeous looking 05 EXL. I stayed away from the touring model because no way will I ever spend $2000 to replace run flats.

I thought I did a lot of research on it and you see it everywhere in ATL so you figure it is a safe bet. But you just don't know what to ask sometimes, take for instance engine mounts.

$1200 a piece for the mount (for the one that matters) before labor and pulling the engine out. Very common that they go out around 60,000 or so miles. The engine mounts are built to help deal with the extra heavy engine they installed. They have them on display at the dealership to show you what a broken one looks like because it's such a common event and costly.

To keep this on topic about Delta, I finished my quarterly CD before anyone had to call. THX.

Look under the front bumper of an 05 to 09 and you'll see a gap. Behind that open gap is the A/C system. If it gets a rock chip from the road it will not be covered under warranty. It was not uncommon for a brand new Odyssey to have this happen and returned to the dealer only to find out the $1000+ bill is not covered. Some had it happen twice in a few months. Class action lawsuit. I spray painted gutter guard black and zip tied it to the front, you should see it as it has chips in it so it worked. Problem is the A/C failed anyways for another reason... $850.

Mine may or may not have a rear seal leak. Just hit 100,000 miles. Between that in the engine mounts I'm looking at $2K to fix, if I'm lucky.

The timing belt is not on a chain. $700-$1200. Honda wants you to do it at 60,000 miles but their marketing department says 100,000. fwiw.

The steering pump had a recall and thank goodness, that thing would've cost me $600+ to replace. It squealed in the winter when cold and it doesn't go away. I found if you replaced the fluid you could make it go away for a while but Honda replaced it on my van at 99,400 miles. whew. And that was only because the service tech fought for it... and themselves really.

Personally this is the second Honda car and it will be the last. I like driving it although the wind noise is obnoxious but it's not as mechanically sound as I think it should be. I think Honda's QA is going downhill very rapidly and the one telling thing to me is they fight hard now on recalls.

I think this will also be my last van. My 2000 F-150 is absolutely trouble free and no timing belt. It's great. Trucks are built to carry their own weight plus some, a van is not built to carry its own weight plus the options. As evidenced by blown tire belts which come to find out is also common on a Odyssey in the heat.

And to keep this on topic, I've moved down 2% in ATL on the 88. I was really hoping to one day bust that 80% threshold. But I'm still here. So that's all that matters anymore. But looking at the bid, my word, A320 wow. Senior. I think my next plane when the day comes will be... ready... ready... 73N. Unless the 320 gets more junior. I plan to do this when I can hold at least 70% or so on the 73N/320 which I estimate to be around 2021.
Wow. I thought I was depressed after watching football all day last Saturday...

If you're gonna be a buzz kill, you probably need to start drinking as well. Only seems fair.

Thankfully we have a 2011 model so I'm sure they've replaced all your old problems with newer more creative (and expensive) problems!
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:29 PM   #81325 (permalink)
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Wow. I thought I was depressed after watching football all day last Saturday...

If you're gonna be a buzz kill, you probably need to start drinking as well. Only seems fair.

Thankfully we have a 2011 model so I'm sure they've replaced all your old problems with newer more creative (and expensive) problems!
Gosh I hope so. Hopefully that new body style and stuff is a lot better. When they work they're fantastic vans.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:54 PM   #81326 (permalink)
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I have no idea what that has to do with talking about this tender and unchangeable subject. When you offer up your position on this as though somebody needed to be "eaten alive" for it, that shows a great deal of pure dumb.

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Works on most aircraft, but the 850s won't work on every ship.
I have 850's and yes they do work on every 88/90 ship. Move the volume switch to the Hi position on the headset, then turn the volume down on the audio control panel and they work just fine.
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I have 850's and yes they do work on every 88/90 ship. Move the volume switch to the Hi position on the headset, then turn the volume down on the audio control panel and they work just fine.
I'll give that a shot thanks.
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Old 11-23-2011, 01:22 AM   #81330 (permalink)
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We had a CRV until we up gauged to a Honda Odyssey (after second kid and, ugh, fourth dog). Nothing bad to say. Midrange trim is more than adequate (at least it was for us), and we owned the thing 6 years with no major problems. Had to have the brake rotors replaced after about 2 years, but I suspect that was mostly driver induced. Only negative I can think of is that Honda does fall short on their warranties compared to their closest competitors.

Hava a friend with a Kia and it was in and out of MX the first year pretty frequently but has been reliable since then. Don't know anything about the RAV 4.
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We have a Sonata (2009) and you can't beat the warranty (5/60 bumper to bumper and 10/100 powertrain). The Kias are all rebadged Hyundais. If you like the styling I don't think you can go wrong with a Kia. They also have great features even with the low end models (much better and usually cheaper than the competition). They are getting great writeups for value and dependability.
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