Originally Posted by ExAF

I thought she said, "It looks like a D*ck in a box....only smaller!"

Originally Posted by BigGuns

December 20, 2011

Fellow Council 66 members,

Friday's LGA schedule announcement for spring 2012 has caused many of our members to express both anger and disappointment. If you are one of those individuals, read on.

Brief history: The slot swap deal was originally proposed almost two years ago, but met with stiff regulatory resistance. Modified terms and the United-Continental and Southwest-AirTran mergers changed the landscape such that regulators eventually approved a modified deal. On December 16, Delta announced its new schedule for the first phase of an eventual LaGuardia hub.

Of more than 100 new flights and 29 new destinations, only 7.5 percent were designated as mainline.

A number of our pilots are just plain angry at reading about so many RJ, and so few mainline flights. Pilots are upset over their lack of career progression. Many perceive the two to be directly related. Because the company never stated publicly, in advance of the transaction, how many slots would be flown by mainline — the ratio of mainline to regional flying has come as a shock to many of our pilots.After all, if Delta was awarded the slots, why does it appear that other companies are benefitting from the transaction?Many of us had the expectation that a greater proportion of mainline flying would be announced. Naturally, there is disappointment. We are disappointed as well.

We can’t justify or explain management’s marketing/networking rationale. That responsibility rests squarely on the shoulders of Delta management, and the MEC administration has communicated to management that they should more clearly communicate the long-term plan for the LGA hub. With that said, the reality is that this expansion is far from an end-state. We will not know what the end-state will look like for some time, possibly 2-3 years by some estimates.

We won’t attempt to justify the schedule for LGA, because we don’t make those decisions, but we do believe that ultimately it is in the best interests of the Delta pilots for Delta to dominate the NYC market. So here goes our take on the facts, as best we know them. As your elected representatives, we are happy to discuss this and any other issues with you, at any time. But we will not make false predictions, nor will we speculate.

• Delta is building a domestic hub in LGA.
• Delta will initially be flying into a number of destinations previously served by US Airways connection carriers. In many cases these markets were served with turboprops. US Airways Express feed is being replaced with (often larger) DCI feed.
• LGA is slot restricted; Long-term capacity growth can only come from up-gauging.
• Scope protection is alive and well. Scope provisions are capping out on 70+ seat jets, with the ability to only acquire two more aircraft to reach the limit of 255 70+ seat jets allowed. We are already capped out on 76-seat jets.
• 50-seaters' continue to be parked (RJ footprint continues to shrink)
• The only aircraft Delta is buying are domestic narrow bodies, specifically MD-90s and the recently announced 737-900s. These aircraft will enter service over the next few years.
• While the 737-900s will replace aircraft that are planned for retirement, Delta has the flexibility to expand as well depending on economic conditions and marketing opportunities.
• DCI aircraft that are coming to NY are not newly acquired.No new RJs have been acquired to fund this expansion.
• This is a real estate deal, and a slot deal. It does not come with passengers. It's a business deal that will take time to unfold. This starts with what Delta determines to be the right size feed. The phase in will be over time and could change as markets bear fruit, or as they fail to do so.
• Delta is essentially a “new entrant” into many of these markets either in totality or in terms of frequency, and it will take time to build market share.
• All RJ flying in the newly announced schedule is a reallocation of existing flying, from other markets.
• The company designs its business plan. Many factors are involved. NY is one piece of the puzzle.
• An important component of the slot swap deal involves significant construction at LGA. That construction will require roughly one year, maybe longer. Once complete, Delta will be able to execute a full schedule out of a fully functional new facility. Delta can’t do that from the onset.
• Delta will have a competitive advantage in NYC as a result of the slot swap.
• With respect to the new A320 category in NYC, there is no direct correlation to the approval of the slot swap. The new category was primarily intended to reduce system credit time.
• LGA will increase from 41 to 56 flight/day on the A320; a small reduction will take place at JFK. The NYC320 category is being ramped up rapidly.
• We want the company to be wildly profitable.
• Yes, we want to see more mainline aircraft in NYC.
  We desire career progression. We desire a better contract.
• We’re just a few months away from exchanging contract openers. Our PWA amendable date is December 31, 2012. Think: Job Security, pay, benefits and working conditions.

Ultimately, we believe that the slot swap, terminal expansion and LGA hub operation will benefit the Delta pilots. As for the initial spring 2012 schedule, we reiterate that this is a management decision.

As always, we remain open to your thoughts and ideas, and we welcome your comments.

Fly safe.



Chairman
Council 66 Capt. Rep

Vice Chairman
Council 66 F/O Rep

Secretary-Treasurer

Originally Posted by FrankCobretti

Merry Christmas to one and all from a guy who mostly lurks, but gets a whole lot out of reading this board.

Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy

While flying a transcon tonight, I overheard a lot of pilots talking on guard about CNBC saying that AMR, jetBlue, and USAir were tying the knot. Any truth to that?

Originally Posted by Fly782

Pops was flying into MEM from AMS last night and said he heard a ton of people talking about it, called and asked if I saw anything... Nothing.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Honestly it is the smaetest move they could make. There will be some asset salesmoffmof it as well. Depends on who is controlling but that deal makes sense and is in line with the consolidation and fragmentation that we are talking about.

Leaving B6 out of the deal is stupid because it exposes their flank to Dal.

Originally Posted by tsquare

I think you need to type slower.

And.... did you delete my thread?