Just some food for thought. How is ALPA going to handle the upcoming battle of cabatoge by foreign airlines that it represents through IFALPA? Are those foreign airlines going to join up with the RJDC guys and sue because ALPA is fighting against cabatoge which will cost those airlines members jobs?
So when do we start? Let's get a few heads together and come up with something that will benefit the pilots, all other employees, our shareholders as well as the company, instead of the "I am a big union and we have power" scenario. Like most, I do NOT want DAL to go down the alley a few other airlines are exploring right now, I do NOT want a scab in the same company I work for, I do NOT want a single DAL flight to operate without DAL pilots onboard. Think about the marketing value alone...
I am ready when you are.
I am working on thoughts for a position paper, and campaign points if I decide to run. I personally would love to see someone in the 2000-2001 range run. If they do not I am seriously considering getting hammered in the fall LEC 44 election.
Sorry, but I disagree comletely with the senior pilots statement. What percentage of the overall group would the "senior" pilots comprise...everyone is off of probation...everyone gets to vote. When you look at the percentage of pilots that vote in any election, now that's disgusting. If you don't vote, you can't complain.
Yes, pilots will say what do I have to give up.. they do and everyone needs to look at the complete package that is being offered.
This board offers the same examples of what do I have to give up, "Call in Honest" and the Jump Seat Program...it worked in a comparable sized group up North, so it should work for the new company, but "what do I have to give up comes up again."
Agreed, negotiations are give and take, there is no hiding that. Problem is we have been giving for quite some time, with some marginal to nil taking.
If this company is half as profitable as management has stated, we should expect significant gains in every section of the PWA come 2012.
Just some food for thought. How is ALPA going to handle the upcoming battle of cabatoge by foreign airlines that it represents through IFALPA? Are those foreign airlines going to join up with the RJDC guys and sue because ALPA is fighting against cabatoge which will cost those airlines members jobs?
The IFALPA members have more to fear than we do. We are the cheap labor that their flying will be outsourced to. Keep that in mind. A AF CA makes about 180-200K euros a year. That is a lot better than where we are. Add to that their bennies, and they have a long way to fall to get close to our level.
So when do we start? Let's get a few heads together and come up with something that will benefit the pilots, all other employees, our shareholders as well as the company, instead of the "I am a big union and we have power" scenario. Like most, I do NOT want DAL to go down the alley a few other airlines are exploring right now, I do NOT want a scab in the same company I work for, I do NOT want a single DAL flight to operate without DAL pilots onboard. Think about the marketing value alone...I am ready when you are.
kneejerk response but as fine a post as i ve ever read at apc
ie collaborative not combative organizations
a max/min problem of how to maximize employee income capabilities while minimizing the odds of bankrupting the company
and quite possibily an unsolvable puzzle but one does stagger forward hopefully ...
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i'm not lost i just don't know where i am right now, over
It is not a proposed flight. They are moving the ATL-BOM service back to JFK, again......
If you check Deltanet it shows the flight as negative availibility on Nov 4-5-6-7. I also checked avail for Dec and can't get any city pair avail past Nov 30. Is there a huge schedule change coming on Dec 1st?
If you check Deltanet it shows the flight as negative availibility on Nov 4-5-6-7. I also checked avail for Dec and can't get any city pair avail past Nov 30. Is there a huge schedule change coming on Dec 1st?
Not sure if that sked is uploaded yet. It may not be running on a given day, but I cannot see us just cutting it completely.
I looked too, and you can only connect though CDG and AMS. I guess we might be cutting that till next spring.....
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