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Old 07-10-2009, 08:35 PM   #9971 (permalink)
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Remember that scene from Back to the Future where Doc is running around the clock tower waiting for Marty and he just keeps saying "Damn".... "Damn Damn"... and so on.

Well Damn Damn.

According to the code a phone, my impression is that Steve Dickson was asked to furlough or consider it and he is standing in the line of fire and making the decision to not furlough despite being overstaffed now and worse off after the capacity cuts.

Now, ACL, out of curiosity does that mean SD has his neck on the line if he doesn't furlough and other departments come blaming him for losses? Looks to me like he's got the support of Richard and Ed not to involuntarily furlough but at some point if this keeps up I think they're hands are tied unless someone else suddenly falls and is allowed to fall.

This memo isn't news really to anyone paying attention. Basically SD is saying they want to increase the A320, M88 and DC9 flying and thus imho ON BOTH SIDES of the aisle I think we're seeing the merger actually prevent furloughs as the coming changes are giving someone like SD the ability to hold on to pilots as we right size, resize, rearrange and thus retrain.

The 767 will be displaced again just like ACL said and looks like the August AE as he stated in the crewroom a month or so ago is on track. Glad this is being stated before the PIRP window closes as I knew of one 767A in particular who said he'd quit before he got displaced and I think if he hasn't been displaced he will be.
This is what has been being stated for quite some time. Fact is that this is the first time that it has been written and published for the pilots to see.
(See I am not completely full of it )

Also, I do not see SD sticking his neck out. What I see he and RA are in agreement not to furlough even though we are overstaffed. If RA wanted it, SD would try to avoid it, but the boss is the boss. Not doing what the boss wants leads to a short tenure. Especially when it involves 10's of millions of dollars.

I also think that this was very carefully worded and there is other information starting to float to the surface that by the end of 2010 we would be in position to furlough if needed.
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Guys go hoist a couple of cold ones or your favorite adult beverage and enjoy your life. We can't change a darn thing. Yes, I might have had one or two small bourbons thereby making life much more pleasant!
No reason to drink.
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Guys go hoist a couple of cold ones or your favorite adult beverage and enjoy your life. We can't change a darn thing. Yes, I might have had one or two small bourbons thereby making life much more pleasant!
Don't have a cold one with me, but I am listening to Tom Petty and Axl Rose sing Free Falling among other tunes. Does that count?
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http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...headline=Delta

Hey its got this picture in the article...


don't you just want to click on it and log in?
Sure and to find that I have awarded the 777A position!
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:45 PM   #9975 (permalink)
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Hey its got this picture in the article...


don't you just want to click on it and log in?
LMAO.....uhh, "no." My ALV is 82 hours. I see this frikkin photo in my sleep. Thanks for the yucks, though. My wife is gonna check me into the hospital for PTSD (Post traumatic sign-in disorder).
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:48 PM   #9976 (permalink)
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Sure and to find that I have awarded the 777A position!
Don't you hate it when an AE is about to be posted and all you can do is just sit there and hit refresh, refresh, refresh... GIVE ME MY BID PEOPLE
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No reason to drink.
Oh, I don't know, I can always find a good reason for a nice scotch or two...
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Oh, I don't know, I can always find a good reason for a nice scotch or two...
I am sure you can.
I on the other hand will just post some more
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I am sure you can.
I on the other hand will just post some more
And thank you for that ACL. I'm looking forward to running into you someday soon. You're a wealth of knowledge, insight, and sanity. Thanks for all you do for all of us. I'll be coming to ATL for my "all inclusive recurrent holiday" at the Comfort Inn in a week and a half. Love to buy you dinner if you're around. Just let me know.
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there is other information starting to float to the surface that by the end of 2010 we would be in position to furlough if needed.
Is the outlook that bleak? Are they expecting things not to improve by then? On the short run, I am sure glad they are not furloughing now!!
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