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Old 11-22-2011, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Has she seen the new Escape / Vertex? The Echo Boost engines are four or so years ahead of the tech used in the competitor's models you're choosing between.



Both Toyota and Honda are doing styling refreshes on the models you mentioned. When you see the new models, you want to avoid the ugly duck 2011's. The RAV4 has available third row seating.



Or, find yourself a 1999 to 2003 BMW 5 Series (E39) wagon, preferably a 528 or 530 with the slide out tray in back. More utility than a truck, drives better than a new too heavy BMW. ... Or try to sell her on a Subaru WRX (2009's my choice). Drive the WRX and any of the new Corolla or Civic on tall struts lose their appeal and the WRX is every bit as functional.



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She's been driving a dodge caravan and loves the utility of the space in back. She also has a mini cooper s, which although a massive joy to drive, is too small for her utilitarian wishes. We are probably going to sell both. I just put new yokahamas on the mini too.

She likes to sit up a little higher and wants the space that's why we are looking at the little suv's. Personally, I like the tahoe, but it is way more vehicle than she needs or wants.

We looked at the jetta sportwagon tdi. Nice little rig, but too little. If they still made a passat tdi, I think we would go that route.

Beamers are great, but even as a car guy, I would dread any transmission problems...Even I dont have a source of inexpensive parts for those.

I had not looked at the eco boost stuff. The newer ford transmissions with 39 external sensors have been giving owners and dealers fits.
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:55 PM
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She's been driving a dodge caravan and loves the utility of the space in back. She also has a mini cooper s, which although a massive joy to drive, is too small for her utilitarian wishes. We are probably going to sell both. I just put new yokahamas on the mini too.

She likes to sit up a little higher and wants the space that's why we are looking at the little suv's. Personally, I like the tahoe, but it is way more vehicle than she needs or wants.

We looked at the jetta sportwagon tdi. Nice little rig, but too little. If they still made a passat tdi, I think we would go that route.

Beamers are great, but even as a car guy, I would dread any transmission problems...Even I dont have a source of inexpensive parts for those.

I had not looked at the eco boost stuff.
My Geekie/Techno wife really likes all the sync stuff on the Fords. She passed up an Explorer and went for an Edge. Sits high like an SUV but has more of a car feel IMHO. From the front door forward, it has more of a minivan look that I didn't like......but it's her car so I bit my lip

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Old 11-22-2011, 05:59 PM
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I've wondered the same thing. With the new 3 year plan, it sure looks like we gave the company 3 years of shrinkage opportunity. Did we change our side of the JV language unilaterally?
That's hard to tell...

The Joint Venture Protocol spells out the JV basics and is a trilateral document.
It's signed by all three CEOs and all three Union Presidents.

MOU14 changed the compliance window and has two signatures on it SD and TO...

The objective of LOA12 was to capture downside protection
The later MOU14 then essentially gives the protective mechanism a three year hiatus for the promise of future growth.

It is more likely we'll modify the JV prior to the end of the current compliance window than for us to reach the end of the window...

In fact it is not unlikely AFKLMAZ will shrink prior to the end of the three year compliance window thus bringing DAL into compliance not by us growing but by them shrinking...

In the meantime they are down 1-3 flights and we have cut 8+ flights
We are below 50% and in compliance...

Good times!

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Old 11-22-2011, 06:00 PM
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FOR SALE

One Corner Barstool, Godfathers, Saipan.

Had my last night there on Monday. Said all my goodbys and felt sadder than I thought I would hanging the left turn direct Toees.

I'm taking suggestions for my new APC "position". Busboy is too obvious...........
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:03 PM
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We had a CRV until we up gauged to a Honda Odyssey (after second kid and, ugh, fourth dog). Nothing bad to say. Midrange trim is more than adequate (at least it was for us), and we owned the thing 6 years with no major problems. Had to have the brake rotors replaced after about 2 years, but I suspect that was mostly driver induced. Only negative I can think of is that Honda does fall short on their warranties compared to their closest competitors.

Hava a friend with a Kia and it was in and out of MX the first year pretty frequently but has been reliable since then. Don't know anything about the RAV 4.
I know this is not about the Odyssey but because you mentioned it I want to talk about it.

I have a gorgeous looking 05 EXL. I stayed away from the touring model because no way will I ever spend $2000 to replace run flats.

I thought I did a lot of research on it and you see it everywhere in ATL so you figure it is a safe bet. But you just don't know what to ask sometimes, take for instance engine mounts.

$1200 a piece for the mount (for the one that matters) before labor and pulling the engine out. Very common that they go out around 60,000 or so miles. The engine mounts are built to help deal with the extra heavy engine they installed. They have them on display at the dealership to show you what a broken one looks like because it's such a common event and costly.

To keep this on topic about Delta, I finished my quarterly CD before anyone had to call. THX.

Look under the front bumper of an 05 to 09 and you'll see a gap. Behind that open gap is the A/C system. If it gets a rock chip from the road it will not be covered under warranty. It was not uncommon for a brand new Odyssey to have this happen and returned to the dealer only to find out the $1000+ bill is not covered. Some had it happen twice in a few months. Class action lawsuit. I spray painted gutter guard black and zip tied it to the front, you should see it as it has chips in it so it worked. Problem is the A/C failed anyways for another reason... $850.

Mine may or may not have a rear seal leak. Just hit 100,000 miles. Between that in the engine mounts I'm looking at $2K to fix, if I'm lucky.

The timing belt is not on a chain. $700-$1200. Honda wants you to do it at 60,000 miles but their marketing department says 100,000. fwiw.

The steering pump had a recall and thank goodness, that thing would've cost me $600+ to replace. It squealed in the winter when cold and it doesn't go away. I found if you replaced the fluid you could make it go away for a while but Honda replaced it on my van at 99,400 miles. whew. And that was only because the service tech fought for it... and themselves really.

Personally this is the second Honda car and it will be the last. I like driving it although the wind noise is obnoxious but it's not as mechanically sound as I think it should be. I think Honda's QA is going downhill very rapidly and the one telling thing to me is they fight hard now on recalls.

I think this will also be my last van. My 2000 F-150 is absolutely trouble free and no timing belt. It's great. Trucks are built to carry their own weight plus some, a van is not built to carry its own weight plus the options. As evidenced by blown tire belts which come to find out is also common on a Odyssey in the heat.

And to keep this on topic, I've moved down 2% in ATL on the 88. I was really hoping to one day bust that 80% threshold. But I'm still here. So that's all that matters anymore. But looking at the bid, my word, A320 wow. Senior. I think my next plane when the day comes will be... ready... ready... 73N. Unless the 320 gets more junior. I plan to do this when I can hold at least 70% or so on the 73N/320 which I estimate to be around 2021.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:17 PM
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And to keep this on topic, I've moved down 2% in ATL on the 88. I was really hoping to one day bust that 80% threshold. But I'm still here. So that's all that matters anymore. But looking at the bid, my word, A320 wow. Senior. I think my next plane when the day comes will be... ready... ready... 73N. Unless the 320 gets more junior. I plan to do this when I can hold at least 70% or so on the 73N/320 which I estimate to be around 2021.
I'd laugh, except I think you're probably right. Like you, I'm just happy that I don't have to commute again, yet.

Much sympathy to the MEM guys, and all the other newly "commuting is a choice" group. By my count the junior 25 in ATL got flushed out as well, with a corresponding suction for the rest of us.

Man would it be nice to see some hiring soon.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:21 PM
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FTB; I'm not going to quote your whole post, but I would agree, honda quality on some vehicles has gone downhill. It started when they re-badged an isuzu pos as a honda. They still make great engines thanks largely to their motorcycle and formula 1 experiences, but everyone is/has caught up. Everyone has variable valve timing and zero or near zero emissions. The honda odyssey and toyota minivans lagged the industry in dealing with minivan transmission faults.

As a former chevy vega owner, my first car, I still have a stigma against american made small cars.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:40 PM
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I had not looked at the eco boost stuff. The newer ford transmissions with 39 external sensors have been giving owners and dealers fits.
The 2013 Escape has a traditional torque converter 6 speed. Not the transmission used in the Focus.

Ford's dual clutch transmission is brilliant, but folks are not used to the "feel" and are bringing them back to dealers looking for the traditional slushbox experience.

I have not driven the Vertex / Escape, but the other Ford products in the garage have been astonishingly good.

Hopeful Contract 2012 is good. I NEED a BOSS 302 with the Laguna Seca package, really, really, badly.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:42 PM
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Its getting to be time to replace the mommy mobile. Mrs Scambo has narrowed her desires to the Honda crv, the toyota rav 4, and the kia sportage. All 2wd all midrange trim levels. I have done the online research, just wondering about anyone's personal experiences with the above vehicles.
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:46 PM
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Sometimes I think the car to buy is the ones just gaining popularity. As other Honda people have said, once the Odyssey got popular then Honda began to pull back. I guess margin management.

I had a Dodge Intrepid as my second car. You want to talk pos.

Fwiw my new hire sim partner at Coex was a geologist for an oil company. He said in the field only two trucks lasted- the F250 and Chevy Suburban. The Chevy trucks weren't as good as those two but he said the Dodges fell apart, broken axles he said. This was 11-15 years ago though.
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