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Old 01-26-2012, 12:21 PM
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I'm waiting to see what color the carrot wil be that they wave at us.
If it's brown, it may not be a carrot.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:21 PM
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Wait a minute... how's sailing, that boot-licking DALPA lackey, ever going to manage expectations* if the openers aren't public?

*(TM The DPA, Detroit Michigan, all rights reserved)
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver View Post
I certainly could have missed it, but I haven't seen any such statement. Where do you get that?
I have posted the P2P response to that question at least five times. Go look it up.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
Hey Clamp,
I certainly hope your right, but I've flown with two diffierent people within the administration and I been told that us seeing the opener is no certainty. THis has and is being debated.

As I told the last individual, if the rank and file have little to no information between the openers and the TA the MEC needs to be prepared for a restless pilot group.
Wait a minute. You flew with pilots on our seniority list that are part of the MEC administration? It can't be. Everyone posts that these guys just collect FPL and never fly!
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post
Wait a minute... how's sailing, that boot-licking DALPA lackey, ever going to manage expectations (TM The DPA, Detroit Michigan) if the openers aren't public?
It has nothing to do with the openers being made public or not. He is attempting to condition us to accept a lower pay increase. He has been consistent about this long before the discussion came up about whether or not the openers were going to be made public. Sailingfun has been a shill for management's point of view for a very long time. That is his track record and that is why I look at anything he posts with an exceptionally critical eye.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver View Post
It has nothing to do with the openers being made public or not. He is attempting to condition us to accept a lower pay increase. He has been consistent about this long before the discussion came up about whether or not the openers were going to be made public. Sailingfun has been a shill for management's point of view for a very long time. That is his track record and that is why I look at anything he posts with an exceptionally critical eye.
OK. You and sailing aren't friends. I get that.

Explain to me how his speculation about the managent opener conditions you to accept a lower pay increase, because it sure doesn't work for me.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:40 PM
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
Hey Clamp,
I certainly hope your right, but I've flown with two diffierent people within the administration and I been told that us seeing the opener is no certainty. THis has and is being debated.

As I told the last individual, if the rank and file have little to no information between the openers and the TA the MEC needs to be prepared for a restless pilot group.
Hey Tomcat, it's great to have you back. How've you been? You ought to see the new pilot digs in LA. First renovation since Pan Am Clippers were flying to Midway.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8 View Post
OK. You and sailing aren't friends. I get that.

Explain to me how his speculation about the managent opener conditions you to accept a lower pay increase, because it sure doesn't work for me.
I didn't say it worked for me either. I suspect it does work on some... hopefully not many. What I did say is that he is attempting to lower expectations.
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Old 01-26-2012, 12:48 PM
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I didn't say it worked for me either. I suspect it does work on some... hopefully not many. What I did say is that he is attempting to lower expectations.
Right. I understand. I'm asking how you think this manages expectations, since it doesn't work fon me, and it doesn't work on you. You think there are pilots out there not quite as smart? You think a ridiculously insulting company opener is going to result in those hypothetical pilots having lower expectations? How does that work?
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