Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-15-2012, 07:18 AM
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Here's an idea:
1. No pay increase for C2012, just a simple 4-5% YOY increase like we've been having.
2. Add an additional 2.5% revenue sharing for the pilots paid out off quarterly revenue. What is that? $600M.
3. We'll be nice and not add the 401K contribution to that additional money.
4. When times are rough, our revenue sharing won't be as much as it is when times are good. Thus our pay is tied to the company's well being but not to that mysterious funny math profit number.
1. No pay increase for C2012, just a simple 4-5% YOY increase like we've been having.
2. Add an additional 2.5% revenue sharing for the pilots paid out off quarterly revenue. What is that? $600M.
3. We'll be nice and not add the 401K contribution to that additional money.
4. When times are rough, our revenue sharing won't be as much as it is when times are good. Thus our pay is tied to the company's well being but not to that mysterious funny math profit number.
03-15-2012, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
There are now 3 with a AE request in that are senior to 4800 (ish). I think some guys have figured out the paid move angle. Timbo?? Are you gonna be a hero??? 
After consulting with the Wife, (her input: ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FKING MIND??!!) I guess not, still got to put 4 kids through college, but If I was going to be a Hero, I'd bid 777 F/O. I'd still be number 1, buddy bid with the LCA's, only fly G/S', etc. and probably make more money, but I think they'd have to train me twice!
My 'right brain' left the building a long time ago!
Flaps 5?? Oh, yeah, get that wouldja?
Thanks...Taxi Check!
03-15-2012, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
No time to go back home and get it, (3 hours round trip) so I call the CPSC, tell them about it, they sent a message to the gate of my commuter flight to ATL and I was able to get on the jumpseat without it...but the Security Clown at the Employee Parking wouldn't let me into the lot! Rat Bastard! I had to go to the Blue lot and pay $30 to park!!
03-15-2012, 07:32 AM
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Okay, and I know T and Timbo will give me a hug over this and so please no I am not a paid supporter of Florida pilots, but for crying out loud WHY DO WE NOT HAVE A 767 BASE IN MCO??????
In MCO we had:
Delta Maintenance... chk
Flight Attendant base... chk
Several hundred 757 flights a day... chk
Overnight expenses for all of these overnight crews... chk
And yet no base? Is this punitive in nature? Are they planning on getting rid of the 757 flying out of MCO? I doubt it. But even if they were when did this company start caring about opening and closing bases at will? This seems punitive to me.
By the way, gotta love this out of MCO yesterday as we were boarding to fly to JFK:
FA: "Ma'am, I'm sorry but there is no more overhead space and we're going to have to check your bag."
Passenger: "Okay, that's fine."
Delta Jumpseater: "Don't do it ma'am. If they check your bag it'll be lost. You'll never see it again."
Passenger: "Wait, what? What should I do? I don't want to lose my bag?"
WTH?
In MCO we had:
Delta Maintenance... chk
Flight Attendant base... chk
Several hundred 757 flights a day... chk
Overnight expenses for all of these overnight crews... chk
And yet no base? Is this punitive in nature? Are they planning on getting rid of the 757 flying out of MCO? I doubt it. But even if they were when did this company start caring about opening and closing bases at will? This seems punitive to me.
By the way, gotta love this out of MCO yesterday as we were boarding to fly to JFK:
FA: "Ma'am, I'm sorry but there is no more overhead space and we're going to have to check your bag."
Passenger: "Okay, that's fine."
Delta Jumpseater: "Don't do it ma'am. If they check your bag it'll be lost. You'll never see it again."
Passenger: "Wait, what? What should I do? I don't want to lose my bag?"
WTH?
03-15-2012, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Something needs to be done about that moron. I know EXACTLY who you are talking about... He is the only one there that won't let you in if you don't have an airline ID. It is ridiculous. If a car has the required parking pass on it, that car should be allowed in.. period. That guy is a total assmask.
Yup, he's wayy over the top! I tried to fake it, I held up my Driver's License....and at first he waved me by, but then jumped out and yelled, "STOP! That's not an Airline ID!!" I told him I forgot my ID, and I was in uniform, etc. but he wouldn't allow me in without my "Delta ID"...total jackass.
I know they have been having some issues now that they have thrown some of the non-MCO based other pilots out, but as you said, if we have the required parking pass, that should be enough to get in. That and they should have built a completely separate lot for the TSA! That's where all the parking spaces went.
03-15-2012, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Okay, and I know T and Timbo will give me a hug over this and so please no I am not a paid supporter of Florida pilots, but for crying out loud WHY DO WE NOT HAVE A 767 BASE IN MCO??????
In MCO we had:
Delta Maintenance... chk
Flight Attendant base... chk
Several hundred 757 flights a day... chk
Overnight expenses for all of these overnight crews... chk
And yet no base? Is this punitive in nature? Are they planning on getting rid of the 757 flying out of MCO? I doubt it. But even if they were when did this company start caring about opening and closing bases at will? This seems punitive to me.
By the way, gotta love this out of MCO yesterday as we were boarding to fly to JFK:
FA: "Ma'am, I'm sorry but there is no more overhead space and we're going to have to check your bag."
Passenger: "Okay, that's fine."
Delta Jumpseater: "Don't do it ma'am. If they check your bag it'll be lost. You'll never see it again."
Passenger: "Wait, what? What should I do? I don't want to lose my bag?"
WTH?
In MCO we had:
Delta Maintenance... chk
Flight Attendant base... chk
Several hundred 757 flights a day... chk
Overnight expenses for all of these overnight crews... chk
And yet no base? Is this punitive in nature? Are they planning on getting rid of the 757 flying out of MCO? I doubt it. But even if they were when did this company start caring about opening and closing bases at will? This seems punitive to me.
By the way, gotta love this out of MCO yesterday as we were boarding to fly to JFK:
FA: "Ma'am, I'm sorry but there is no more overhead space and we're going to have to check your bag."
Passenger: "Okay, that's fine."
Delta Jumpseater: "Don't do it ma'am. If they check your bag it'll be lost. You'll never see it again."
Passenger: "Wait, what? What should I do? I don't want to lose my bag?"
WTH?
that jumpseater was a SWA plant.
03-15-2012, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
They want their adoring fans to be able to welcome them at the civilian airports. When Clinton was elected Little Rock AFB spent some nice coin on getting their Base Ops up to snuff with a VIP room in anticipation of his coming through there a lot. I don't think he ever saw it--always came into LIT where the helicopters would take him away to other parts of the state. All the support came out from the base up north...cops, airstairs, etc. Maybe because of a fear of fuel contamination, but they would even drive the fuel trucks out from the AFB for Air Force One instead of taking fuel from LIT. Basically, a major PITA when he could have just landed at LRF.
Here's my Air Farce One story:
I was in the NH Air Guard up at Pease AFB back when Geo. Bush 1 was the Pres. As you may remember, he has as summer house in Kennebunkport, Maine, and he used it quite a bit. He would fly AF 1 into Pease, usually preceded by a C141 full of black Chevy Surburbans and two Marine helo's who would drop him on his front lawn at the summer house.
Well, one morning we are out flying, doing our regular mission, ie. fly to upstate NY and do a refueling with some FB111's out of Plattsburg or something, but when we return to Pease, we dial in the ATIS, and it says the field is CLOSED!
WTFark?? It's CAVU...and it's Closed?? We call Ops, they say, Oh Yeah, Bush is coming, the field is closed until after he departs. We say, Closed for WHO?? Vistors? We are BASED at PSM! And we all have TOP Secret clearances, and WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM!!
They say, Nope, you can't come in here right now. We ask, "When will he arrive/depart for Kennebunkport?" They say, "Well, he was supposed to be here an hour ago...but we don't think he's left Andrews yet."
OK, we are 50 miles out of PSM, and he's not left Andrews yet...and we can't land...at OUR OWN BASE?? We could be parked, and I'll be HOME before he get's anywhere near Pease!
Well, we didn't have 2-3 hours of holding fuel, so we went to Bangor and had lunch, then after the POTUS was safely delivered to Kennebunkport, we were allowed to return...4 hours later.
We saw wayyy too much of him in his 4 years, every summer he'd go up to Kennebunkport at least 2-3 times. A friend of mine took me up in a hellicopter once and we buzzed his beach house, but he wasn't there at the time or we'd probably been shot at.
03-15-2012, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Yup, he's wayy over the top! I tried to fake it, I held up my Driver's License....and at first he waved me by, but then jumped out and yelled, "STOP! That's not an Airline ID!!" I told him I forgot my ID, and I was in uniform, etc. but he wouldn't allow me in without my "Delta ID"...total jackass.
I know they have been having some issues now that they have thrown some of the non-MCO based other pilots out, but as you said, if we have the required parking pass, that should be enough to get in. That and they should have built a completely separate lot for the TSA! That's where all the parking spaces went.
I know they have been having some issues now that they have thrown some of the non-MCO based other pilots out, but as you said, if we have the required parking pass, that should be enough to get in. That and they should have built a completely separate lot for the TSA! That's where all the parking spaces went.
03-15-2012, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
How are you going to work without your Delta ID?
03-15-2012, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. All this "..thank you Gold, Silver, Platinum, etc, etc..." Thank them by shutting up! Stop pushing your AmEx card on me. Heard from a friend who flew on some other airline that they didn't go through the litany of on-off of the electronics as much as Delta does. He said they replaced the "No Smoking" symbol next to the seat belt light with a symbol that represents "electronics"...we're above 10,000...cleared to turn it on, and people are cleared to have at it--one less annoying PA.
And while we're on the subject, it seems a lot of captains either ask me to make a PA to tell the pax to keep their seats while we stop for 15 seconds outside the gate, or make it themselves. As was mentioned, they're the captain so I'll make the PA, but really, don't you think the FAs can handle it? Sure, you can make the case for it by thinking of some scenario that saved a pax from breaking his back, but I can think of another 100 reasons to make another 100 PAs too.
And while we're on the subject, it seems a lot of captains either ask me to make a PA to tell the pax to keep their seats while we stop for 15 seconds outside the gate, or make it themselves. As was mentioned, they're the captain so I'll make the PA, but really, don't you think the FAs can handle it? Sure, you can make the case for it by thinking of some scenario that saved a pax from breaking his back, but I can think of another 100 reasons to make another 100 PAs too.
Jesse,
Agreed except for the pulling into the gate PA - I have seen everyone get up and start pulling stuff from the overhead and inevetialby the plane will taxi into the gate with one of the many wand-waivers who failed the class on proportionality, and go from full taxi to dead stop in .00000001 second.
Once the herd senses freedom and all jump up it is too late - the only way to prevent this is a pro-active PA and no one is sleeping at this point.
As far as all the other PAs go it is frigging ridiculous - waaay too many! Oh and at the last Council 16 meeting guys were complaining to the Chief Pilot about delays while waiting for the safety demo video (DALs manifesto) to stop playing. The consensus was that it was too long.
But I guess audible harassment is just part of the Air travel experience:
***In the interest of air safety ........blah, blah, blah......
***Hey listen folks I am an electronic cart with a 120db beeper to annoy the crap out of you.
Sooner or later some airport will pay a consulting firm a 7 figure fee to tell them that a quiet and pleasant experience is preferred to being continually audibly assaulted.
Scoop
And for the Navy guy giving his resume over the PA - Pathetic!
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