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Old 03-30-2012, 07:51 AM
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How many pilots would delta have if we had 100% scope?
17,500 ... more or less.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:51 AM
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How many pilots would delta have if we had 100% scope?
approx 3-5000 more, and more beyond that when FTDT kicks in.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1 View Post
-------------------------------------quote above^^^^^^^^^^^^^^----------------
Following 6 years of stagnation?

The real question is not money. The real question IS: Can DALPA recapture scope or is the (perceived) conflict of interest at national REAL.

We've been down this road before...promises, promises...How about we get our jobs back as item #1 and get our pay back as item #2.
Most posts are indicating we will not seek scope recapture, but rather another "small" increase in scope allowances and outsourcing.

I'll vote no to anything with worse scope than current.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067 View Post
Raw bucket group 3 now starts at 129 for narrow body. Me like
I'm looking at this and trying to figure it out. Do I get raw credit for vacation or how do I figure out what bucket I'm going to be in.

Have 45 hours of vacation, and sit at appx 66%. Does any of that effect the raw or which bucket I'll be in

Yup, going to have to get out the books and study..........or be taken advantage of by the schedulers, off with the prom dress
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Flamer View Post
How many pilots would delta have if we had 100% scope?
Fuzzy math because you will get the point of view that the overall network would be less, but for a second lets say that we would fly all flying at top market rates for each flying segment. The number if you include the JV's, Code Shares, and DCI would be about 21,700 pilots:

12,000 here
7,500 DCI
700 ALK
1500 JV Jobs

( I did not include intra country code shares. The numbers of the AF JV assume their current flights in bundle one, but are very conservative. The ALK deal is pilots that would be dedicated to ops of DAL passengers flying on ALK metal and again is quite conservative
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
17,500 ... more or less.
Bar DCI is 7500 pilots, you are talking active pilots and not including their pilots on the seniority list that are not in active line flying.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149 View Post
I'm looking at this and trying to figure it out. Do I get raw credit for vacation or how do I figure out what bucket I'm going to be in.

Have 45 hours of vacation, and sit at appx 66%. Does any of that effect the raw or which bucket I'll be in

Yup, going to have to get out the books and study..........or be taken advantage of by the schedulers, off with the prom dress
You will get RAW credit for each day of vacation.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
Fuzzy math because you will get the point of view that the overall network would be less, but for a second lets say that we would fly all flying at top market rates for each flying segment. The number if you include the JV's, Code Shares, and DCI would be about 21,700 pilots:

12,000 here
7,500 DCI
700 ALK
1500 JV Jobs

( I did not include intra country code shares. The numbers of the AF JV assume their current flights in bundle one, but are very conservative. The ALK deal is pilots that would be dedicated to ops of DAL passengers flying on ALK metal and again is quite conservative
But do those numbers take into account how we'd staff a nb at around 11-12 pilots per plane versus how the other airlines would do it?
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Originally Posted by Ferd149 View Post
I'm looking at this and trying to figure it out. Do I get raw credit for vacation or how do I figure out what bucket I'm going to be in.

Have 45 hours of vacation, and sit at appx 66%. Does any of that effect the raw or which bucket I'll be in

Yup, going to have to get out the books and study..........or be taken advantage of by the schedulers, off with the prom dress
You will receive RAW credit for each vacation day.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:06 AM
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$640M mega millions.

I'm buyin Delta. I will own you guys.

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