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Old 03-22-2009, 06:08 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I'll believe it when I see a Ryanair jet actually in US airspace on a revenue flight.
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Old 03-22-2009, 06:18 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Heh. Well, I loved everything in your post, and if I had a 737 type I'd be sorely tempted to roll the dice.

However, I have to say, I sincerely hope you're wrong about Ryan trans-Atlantic international flying. No offense. International flying is the primary source of growth and profit for legacy carriers. They won't give this up without a huge fight.

I don't see it happening. But who knows?
It may not happen but who knows. o'Leary has made 2 unsuccessful attempts to take over Aer Lingus so he is intent on doing some kind of Transatlantic thing.
There are Americans working with us here, A few years ago Ryanair really needed Captains and if you had a Type with PIC on the 737 they would get the working papers for you including the validation of your FAA licence. so you did not even have to worry about the JAA conversion. I think the guys got 2 years to do the written exams by a home study course and then were issued a JAA Licence. A good deal if you ask me. The few I met love it here. I suppose getting in as a Captain (No Senority Lists) and not having to pay your dues as you do so in the USA helps a lot.
Apologies for the generalisations about the lifestyle in the USA. I love the country just had enough of working there.
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Old 03-22-2009, 06:35 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I sat next to O'leary once in first class on a flight to Ireland.

This video pretty much sums him up!

YouTube - Ryanair Long-haul flights have "blowjobs" included!

If you're easily offended, don't watch it.

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Old 03-22-2009, 07:10 AM   #44 (permalink)
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It may not happen but who knows. o'Leary has made 2 unsuccessful attempts to take over Aer Lingus so he is intent on doing some kind of Transatlantic thing.
There are Americans working with us here, A few years ago Ryanair really needed Captains and if you had a Type with PIC on the 737 they would get the working papers for you including the validation of your FAA licence. so you did not even have to worry about the JAA conversion. I think the guys got 2 years to do the written exams by a home study course and then were issued a JAA Licence. A good deal if you ask me. The few I met love it here. I suppose getting in as a Captain (No Senority Lists) and not having to pay your dues as you do so in the USA helps a lot.
Apologies for the generalisations about the lifestyle in the USA. I love the country just had enough of working there.
Wish I could have jumped on the RyanAir company assistance on the JAA when it was being offered. Getting that on your own time and dollar (just for a chance at an interview!) is incredibly time consuming and expensive. (700 hrs ground school, 12 written exams, JAA issued type ride, flight training, etc.)

That really rubs me the wrong way. There is no conceivable safety reason to tell a 10,000+ hour US ATP pilot that he's unqualified to fly in Europe because he doesn't have a JAA. It's an obvious artificial method of keeping US PILOTS out of EUROPEAN markets.

And there's the rub. No one wants RyanAir or any other European company playing in "our" backyard, either. I don't think you can have it both ways . . keep the US pilots out, but expect European LCC's to compete in US markets.
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Wish I could have jumped on the RyanAir company assistance on the JAA when it was being offered. Getting that on your own time and dollar (just for a chance at an interview!) is incredibly time consuming and expensive. (700 hrs ground school, 12 written exams, JAA issued type ride, flight training, etc.)

That really rubs me the wrong way. There is no conceivable safety reason to tell a 10,000+ hour US ATP pilot that he's unqualified to fly in Europe because he doesn't have a JAA. It's an obvious artificial method of keeping US PILOTS out of EUROPEAN markets.

And there's the rub. No one wants RyanAir or any other European company playing in "our" backyard, either. I don't think you can have it both ways . . keep the US pilots out, but expect European LCC's to compete in US markets.
A 10,000 hr ATPL pilot from Europe isn't qualified to fly in the US until he takes the ATP exam (albeit it's relatively very easy) and checkride.

The JAR ATPL exams, unlike the FAA, are geared toward International flying because, unlike your first RJ job in the US, you're gonna see a lot of it from day one on the job. You could be a 20,000hr RJ driver and a great pilot. A great pilot who is yet to be trained in international ops. You're given indepth INTL ops training from the start in your EU ATPL exams.

Most countries ATPL exams are more indepth than the FAA. I don't think it's a conspiracy on the part of the EU. There'a also no Oral exam on the checkride so yeah, the written exams are a bear. But, once they are complete, all you have to do is show you can fly!

It's 14 exams but 2 are very short!

The bulk of hiring in recent years has been in Britain at Ryanair and EasyJet. Not exactly a region that's impartial to its American allies. If you are legal and qualified, you are free to seek employment, just as a foreign national can do in the US.

I don't think EU LLC's will see Ninth Freedom Rights in the US.

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Old 03-22-2009, 10:29 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Plus the fact that I believe O'Leary said that they were going to serve Islip and call it New York. That's like Skybus going to Providence and calling it Boston. You may get unknowledgeable Europeans biting on that, but I don't think many New Yorkers will go that far to fly. Plus, where do you feed from there?
Alot of people live on Long Island and dread the LIE or the Parkways during rush hour. I would wager the flight would be full in both directions as there are a good number of commercial flights to ISP, and Ryanair flies to a number of destinations from Dublin.

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Just look at this article. I guarantee that if your working under this guys helm, you QOL sucks. If this is how they treat their customers, imagine how they treat their pilots. I don't care how much they pay, being forced to fly 90+ is unacceptable.

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/frame/news.html
You need to talk to crews who fly for Ryanair. You will get both good and bad reviews. A stable roster of 5 days on and 4 days off with one standby day ain't to bad. Being home every night with the family if you're happily married is a bonus too. New airplanes with an average age of 6 years and no mx issues??? how many US pilots can say that about their airlines?

As for pay, with the exception of Fed Ex, UPS... how many captains earn more than first officers do at Ryanair?
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I’m sorry… but how much of your salary concession has been repaid to you with interest? Oh yeah and your pension… it’s been restored… hasn’t it? You did those provisions in your contract didn’t you?
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Alot of people live on Long Island and dread the LIE or the Parkways during rush hour. I would wager the flight would be full in both directions as there are a good number of commercial flights to ISP, and Ryanair flies to a number of destinations from Dublin.

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The vast majority of peolpe would be Europeans travelling here on holiday. Besides, if Islip was a viable alternative to Newark or JFK, don't you think that there would be more flights out of there to relieve the already overcrowded international airports?
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The vast majority of peolpe would be Europeans travelling here on holiday. Besides, if Islip was a viable alternative to Newark or JFK, don't you think that there would be more flights out of there to relieve the already overcrowded international airports?
Ground service operating cost is a major factor of Ryanair destinations. Some airports, under a public service program pay Ryanair to fly to some destinations. Some US cities have similar programs to court airlines into flying into their cities too.

Another option for Ryanair would be Newburg.
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