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Old 03-24-2009, 10:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Pilots of 777 your thoughts?

I'm working on a school project where I need to determine how pilots of the Boeing 777 feel about the design, flyability and overall likeableness of the B777. If you fly the 777, if you could make a post on a few short thoughts about the plane, it would be appreciated.
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Old 03-25-2009, 05:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Great plane, sorry trips. Thats the joke I've heard Continental and Delta pilots use for the 777.
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The trips on only bad depending on what kind of trips and/or overnights you like. 16 hour legs give you great productivity and days off. Mumbi and Delhi are not great overnights, but most overnights are great like PEK or NRT.

The plane is great. Electronic checklists, electronic flight bags, CPDLC/ADS, the plane trims when you add flaps or lose an engine. It's fly-by-wire, so you only get the artificial feel in the cockpit, but that's fine. The systems management is great compared to older Boeings. I've flown the 737's, 757's, and 767's. The 777 is highly automated when it comes to systems. You don't do much. For example: an engine start problem. You don't do anything, if you're in autostart, which is the norm. The plane will shut it down or attempt restarts as needed. If you get a message on the EICAS, hit the checklist button and there's your checklist.

My complaint is lack of "flying" and landing. I'd rather do more legs in the crappy 737 and fly/land the plane more. Not SWA 737 flying, but 1-2 legs a day is fine. I'm a pilot and I like to fly at least some.
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You don't do much.
And yet is the highest paying airframe on the contract. Kinda makes ya wonder...

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Old 03-25-2009, 09:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Works great, lasts a long time. The cup holders are too small.
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Old 03-25-2009, 12:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The trips on only bad depending on what kind of trips and/or overnights you like. 16 hour legs give you great productivity and days off. Mumbi and Delhi are not great overnights, but most overnights are great like PEK or NRT.

The plane is great. Electronic checklists, electronic flight bags, CPDLC/ADS, the plane trims when you add flaps or lose an engine. It's fly-by-wire, so you only get the artificial feel in the cockpit, but that's fine. The systems management is great compared to older Boeings. I've flown the 737's, 757's, and 767's. The 777 is highly automated when it comes to systems. You don't do much. For example: an engine start problem. You don't do anything, if you're in autostart, which is the norm. The plane will shut it down or attempt restarts as needed. If you get a message on the EICAS, hit the checklist button and there's your checklist.

My complaint is lack of "flying" and landing. I'd rather do more legs in the crappy 737 and fly/land the plane more. Not SWA 737 flying, but 1-2 legs a day is fine. I'm a pilot and I like to fly at least some.
Kind of sounds like an Airbus...
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And yet is the highest paying airframe on the contract. Kinda makes ya wonder...
You want it to pay less?
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Okay, two things. First, crappy 737!? Now, cramped I can accept, but crappy? And secondly, since when do workload and compensation have anything to do with one another? I know this may seem revolutionary, but shouldn't pay be based on revenue production?
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You want it to pay less?
hes referring to "Twice the pilot, half the pay" saying i think
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Okay, two things. First, crappy 737!? Now, cramped I can accept, but crappy? And secondly, since when do workload and compensation have anything to do with one another? I know this may seem revolutionary, but shouldn't pay be based on revenue production?
I don't have any specific quotes, but during indoc at CAL, we were told that 737 pilots actually generate more revenue due to flying more frequent flights.
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