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Old 03-31-2009, 03:25 AM   #21 (permalink)
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its been well over the emailed 7 days before viewing-- where is it?
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:29 AM   #22 (permalink)
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What effect will this have on manpower and the folks on furlough....if any?
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Old 03-31-2009, 06:40 AM   #23 (permalink)
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What effect will this have on manpower and the folks on furlough....if any?
NONE.

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Old 03-31-2009, 08:03 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I agree. Sadly it will be manpower neutral. I wish it were a net positive, and we could stop some of the furloughing, but that is not the way PBS is designed. It goes to an average line value that the company shoots for (based on their experience of maximizing pain without getting increased fatigue/sick calls. Then it distributes pairings based on the constraints (floor/Cap/FAR's/contract). The top guys get what they want from what is left. At some point it will start forcing flying either high or low depending on manpower. Example: In April, at #40 in my category it started forcing everyone into 65 hour lines. All lineholders from #40-100 got some iteration of a 65 hour line. What narrowing the gap between the CAP and the floor does is move that forced flying number around; either up or down depending on which value you change. In our case, if the TA passes (it won't if its put up for a vote, btw... I'm the only person I know who is going to vote for it), it will really depend on how many pilots preference to fly less than the 95/89 Cap we have now. I'd be first in line.

While the TA sadly doesn't increase our need for pilots, it doesn't DECREASE it either, which is what most people are saying. It's manpower neutral. What it DOES do is improve the QOL of for those of us who are low level line holders on the 320/300, where the improvements are most needed. Getting rid of the forced 95 hour/11 day off lines would be a good fatigue mitigator.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:45 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I'm happy to see that the union has done something for QOL, but it is EXTREMELY frustrating to see them pull out of furlough mitigation talks then announce this.

Between the bond/PBGC, losing my seniority for pay while on furlough the first time, the age 65, and now the ability for the line holders to trip trade again - removing my ability as a reserve to get any type of flying (which is especially important now as I am getting bumped from my domicile and have to commute for the last five months before I get furloughed AGAIN), I really am starting to have a tough time seeing what our castrated union is doing for me as a junior 2172.

I know the company is the greater of two evils, but it is certainly hard to swallow anyone from ALPA telling me about UNITY. I am a member of the SPC and helped the IRC when it was around, just for background (and I have been an ALPA member for 12 years).

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Old 03-31-2009, 10:35 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:50 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Ridiculus question at this point in time. Hey jake have you ever been on strike?
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:50 AM   #28 (permalink)
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If I have to. It will be interesting to see who will...
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:58 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Over what?
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:38 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I struck in 85, and I look forward to doing so again.

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