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Old 01-24-2009, 10:58 AM
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Virgin America acts to find new investors

By Justin Baer in New York

Published: January 18 2009 20:46 | Last updated: January 18 2009 20:46

Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Group has hired Lazard to help recruit new
investors in Virgin America following concern that the fledgling US
carrier's current shareholders may move their stake back to its sister
company.

Virgin Group founded Virgin America in 2005 with a pair of domestic
funds, Black Canyon and Cyrus Capital Partners, to skirt US laws
preventing foreign entities from owning a controlling stake in an
American airline. The UK company now fears that the deepening financial
crisis could prompt the two firms to exercise an option to recall their
combined $150m investment in Virgin America in the next month --
eventually leaving Virgin Group the sole shareholder, people familiar
with the matter said.

Lazard, in an appointment from both Virgin Group and Virgin America, is
looking to line up potential replacements for Black Canyon and Cyrus,
those people said. Virgin Group would in turn transfer the firms'
*ownership stake to new US investors once they had committed, remaining
in compliance with foreign ownership rules.

A person close to Cyrus denied the fund was facing a liquidity squeeze
and said it had not reached its decision on Virgin America, which has
enough capital to fund its growth plans through until 2011.

The San Francisco-based carrier, which operates more than 80 flights a
day to eight destinations, showed enough promise to win almost $100m in
additional capital last autumn. By comparison, the largest US carrier,
Southwest Airlines, offers more than 3,300 flights a day. Virgin America
has raised more than $400m in debt and equity since its founding.

Officials from Virgin Group, Virgin America and Cyrus declined to
comment. Black Canyon could not be reached for comment.

Virgin Group owns 49 per cent of Virgin America, including a 24 per cent
voting stake in the airline -- the maximum allowed under US laws.

Black Canyon and Cyrus hold the remaining equity, and appeared committed
to the business.

The firms have been free to exercise their option since September.

The turmoil that gripped the markets last year has only worsened,
leaving Virgin Group to assume that Black Canyon and Cyrus will put
their Virgin America stake back to raise cash.

Virgin America began service in 2007 after a protracted battle in
Washington over its rights to operate domestic flights and the company's
ties to Virgin Group.

The privately held airline petitioned US transport officials to withhold
important operational data from the public, keeping information from
rivals and fuelling rumours that it has found it difficult to lure
enough passengers to stay in business.

Robert Nisi, Cyrus's chief operating officer, told the Financial Times
last year that the carrier was filling 80 per cent of its available
seats and expected to turn a profit by the second half of this year.
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...tick,tick,tick.....hmmm is that clock getting louder..oh yeah!
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:57 AM
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MCDUDU,

I was one of the first employees at VA and this was something that they did mention. The initial investors were never in it for the long-haul. I suppose they are like "angel" investors that go for the short gain and move on, never really owning anything more than two to three years.

As Robert Crandall said in a recent interview "why would I ever own an airline stock?"

The current investors have had the option to remove their cash since September of last year. I think someone is making more of this than it really is.
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Cappy,

What's the 2009 hiring outlook for VA. Are you still taking delivery of aircraft? Thanks.
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This would not be a "credit problem". It would be a DOT problem.
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MCDUDU,

I was one of the first employees at VA and this was something that they did mention. The initial investors were never in it for the long-haul. I suppose they are like "angel" investors that go for the short gain and move on, never really owning anything more than two to three years.

As Robert Crandall said in a recent interview "why would I ever own an airline stock?"

The current investors have had the option to remove their cash since September of last year. I think someone is making more of this than it really is.
cappy

In other times when Wall Street was flush with cash I would say another suitor will be along shortly....but not today! Times are different and your plight may be solved in the short term but the outlook is not good.

http://industry.bnet.com/travel/1000511/report-investors-looking-to-abandon-virgin-america/

To say otherwise is just not a prudent path of thought. Although if I worked there I would feel the same...Where is that guardian angel ?
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Originally Posted by Cappy View Post
I was one of the first employees at VA and this was something that they did mention. The initial investors were never in it for the long-haul. I suppose they are like "angel" investors that go for the short gain and move on, never really owning anything more than two to three years.

The current investors have had the option to remove their cash since September of last year. I think someone is making more of this than it really is.

One of the things that impressed me was VX's ability to raise intial start-up capital ($225 mil?) and then get $100 mil more a few months ago. Absolutely amazing in this bear market and credit crunch. Your CEO and directors are to be commended. And with that, I don't see VX going away anytime soon. They've got enough cash for at least 12-14 more months of operation, barring an oil spike to $150 again.
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Just wait and see what happens on the 3rd.
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Just wait and see what happens on the 3rd.
What time on the 3rd?
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3 Feb crickets............
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