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Old 04-07-2009, 03:54 PM
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Continental can join Star Alliance and form joint venture, DOT says - Houston Business Journal:

The Joint Venture cancer is spreading - now CAL, UAL, Air Canada, and Lufthansa are entering trans-atlantic joint venture and revenue sharing. UAL has already set the stage with its IAD-Madrid "United" flights using Shamrock A330s and unknown pilots. It's only a matter of time before we see an Uzbekistani Captain in command of a Lufthansa 747-400 flying as "Continetal XXX" from Frankfurt to Toronto, codesharing with WestJet and providing feed to Southwest (by then a wholly owned subsidiary of GoJet).

Am I overreacting? Someone please say so.
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I think that you are overreacting. This is the whole point of an airline alliance. These alliances have been around for a long time. NWA/KLM for instance. As pilots, we all need to keep our guard up when it comes to job outsourcing, but I don't that that this announcement in itself will lead to more outsourcing.
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The UAL and CAL pilots are about to get it in the shorts.
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Originally Posted by Squeegee man View Post
The UAL and CAL pilots are about to get it in the shorts.

How is that?
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Other than CAL and Luthansia, who else are strong long term players?

UAL and Air Canda have great employees, but their management is far below average.
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Now with CAL in the "Star and Sickle" Alliance Lufthansa can sell out jetblue to DAL.

They do have 2 seats on B6 board and I feel they were using B6 to whip-sal CAL management.
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
UAL and Air Canda have great employees, but their management is far below average.
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Now with CAL in the "Star and Sickle" Alliance Lufthansa can sell out jetblue to DAL.

They do have 2 seats on B6 board and I feel they were using B6 to whip-sal CAL management.

I don't see DAL getting past antitrust laws to buy another US Major.

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I don't see DAL getting past antitrust laws to buy another US Major.
I don't think Delta wants JB. And antitrust wouldn't be an issue if there was little to no route overlap.
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Originally Posted by Free Bird View Post
I don't think Delta wants JB. And antitrust wouldn't be an issue if there was little to no route overlap.

Antitrust would be an issue for sure. I think Lufthansa would be more likely to buy more of Jetblue.

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