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Old 04-29-2009, 04:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hmmm, dumping fuel over Puget Sound. Since it just took off, it must be loaded with fuel. Is it standard operating procedure to dump ALL of it or just some of it?

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A Boeing 777 bound for Seoul, Korea, landed safely this afternoon at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport after losing power in one of its two engines.

According to airport spokesman Perry Cooper, Asiana Airlines Flight 271 had departed as scheduled at around 2:25 p.m. The pilot reported to air traffic control, either during takeoff or immediately after, that an engine had somehow caught on fire, Cooper said.

Witnesses reported seeing flames coming from one of the engines.

The plane then circled the airport, dumping fuel over Puget Sound in preparation for an emergency landing. The plane then landed without incident.

There were no apparent injuries to the 179 passengers onboard nor was there obvious damage to the plane's engines, he said.

"We're not sure what happened or what caused it," Cooper said.
He said it's not unusual for a small amount of "flame out" to occur when a plane takes off.

FAA spokesman Mike Fergus said the plane is capable of flying with one engine.

The FAA will investigate the incident and provide a report to the National Transportation Safety Board, Fergus said.

Local News | Boeing plane makes emergency landing at Sea-Tac | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmmm, dumping fuel over Puget Sound. Since it just took off, it must be loaded with fuel. Is it standard operating procedure to dump ALL of it or just some of it?
A single-engine approach will become a zero-engine approach if you dump all your fuel, won't it?
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was lounging on the couch and saw him on downwind dumping fuel....right over my freakin' house!!! Bastard!!!

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Old 04-29-2009, 04:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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"We're not sure what happened or what caused it," Cooper said.
He said it's not unusual for a small amount of "flame out" to occur when a plane takes off.

What on God's green earth does that mean?!?!?! It's Ok to "flame out" a little on take-off and that is a normal thing? I personally, and it is just my opinion, do not like the engines to flame out a little on takeoff. Maybe someone here can educate me that this is OK. Or was he saying it is OK to have a small amount of flames shooting out the back?!?!? That I have no problem with. Just as long as only a "small" amount of flames are shooting out the back of my engines, I am cool. Where do they get these folks?

"Witnesses reported seeing flames coming from one of the engines."

Holy COW! But this was Ok per the next statement:

"There were no apparent injuries to the 179 passengers onboard nor was there obvious damage to the plane's engines, he said."

At least there was no "obvious" damage to the engines!!! Only flames coming out of it. It should be OK after a quick engine run by maintenance.

Do you think maintenance will come back with it being a CND?
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"We're not sure what happened or what caused it," Cooper said.
He said it's not unusual for a small amount of "flame out" to occur when a plane takes off.
Me thinks SeaTac should be looking for a new "spokesperson."
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I was watching KomoTv and a passenger was saying how much confidence he had in the pilots. He was very Pro-pilot which is a change for anything on TV. Cudos to that Pax.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Not to toot my own horn, but I took off out of Seatac at 1pm and didn't flameout either engine! (not even a small amount)

Got to Narita and they made us sit on the plane for an extra 10 minutes while they passed out flu masks and scanned everyone with a thermal camera.

Oh the Glamor
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At least there was no "obvious" damage to the engines!!! Only flames coming out of it. It should be OK after a quick engine run by maintenance.

Do you think maintenance will come back with it being a CND?
I got on an airplane once and Mx was on board. They said the engine was on fire earlier today, but they couldn't duplicate the problem. Ops check good, and they just wiped the smoke smudges off the tailpipe and off we were. Gotta love Mesa Mx! haha

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Got to Narita and they made us sit on the plane for an extra 10 minutes while they passed out flu masks and scanned everyone with a thermal camera.

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Good for them. I take the easy route, and I just carry Tamiflu with me. *in best Rasputia voice* How YOU doing?!
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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If you dump above 6000 feet the fuel evaporates prior to reaching the ground.

Many airlines will only you have you dump enough fuel to make a safe overweight landing. (767 only lets you dump from the center tanks. Means if you were fully loaded with Jet A you will still land with ~ 80K of gas. )
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I watched this happen from Golden Gardens. It was pretty sweet/dramatic looking, first time seeing a fuel dump.
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