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Old 06-29-2009, 10:30 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Rudder - see the difference?
OK, there were B-17's that had their VETRICAL STABILIZERS AND RUDDERS shot off along with parts of their wings and made it back to base.

I don't mean to keep you from worrying about the loss of a vertical stabilizer meaning an aircraft will immediately become uncontrollabe and crash. If that's your belief, have at it.

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Old 06-29-2009, 10:33 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Sorry about that.

FDI = Foreign Direct Investment.
VER= Voluntary Export Restriction
LCR= Local Content requirement.

The above are just some of the many tools available in the management of free trade in the absence of ineffective tariffs and quotas.

Which class did you take last week?


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Your posts are so patently ignorant of the reality regarding the 787 project that there is only one conclusion: You have outsourced your posting activity.

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Your posts are so patently ignorant of the reality regarding the 787 project that there is only one conclusion: You have outsourced your posting activity.Carl
Ignorance regarding what 787?

My post, which you just quoted, was in response to a question and had nothing to do with the 787.

Evidently you're so insecure in yourself that you feel the need to be "RIGHT" all the time.

I'm going to save us both a lot of time.

YOU'RE RIGHT!

Boeing are great. They are blameless. It's all the vendors fault.
Kanban systems are ineffective!
Quality audits are not necessary!
Perfect components should arrive at the end of the production line. This should occur even on pre-production runs.
Outsourcing doesn't facilitate competitive advantage. Build it all in Seattle. It will work!
Other engineering firms who are involved in their vendor's production and training are making a mistake. Their success is the result of sheer luck. They are fools. Boeing is smart!

Happy now?

I'll just go back to my lowly MBA case studies and bow to your superior PhD. I'm sure you must have a PhD right?

Well done Carl. You're the man!


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Old 06-30-2009, 04:39 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Well done Carl. You're the man!
I know.

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OK, there were B-17's that had their VETRICAL STABILIZERS AND RUDDERS shot off along with parts of their wings and made it back to base.

I don't mean to keep you from worrying about the loss of a vertical stabilizer meaning an aircraft will immediately become uncontrollabe and crash. If that's your belief, have at it.

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Did you read the link I provided above regarding AA 587 probable cause?
Do you have photos of planes with entire vertical stab gone that landed safely?

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...30X02321&key=1
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Did you read the link I provided above regarding AA 587 probable cause?
Do you have photos of planes with entire vertical stab gone that landed safely?

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Old 07-01-2009, 06:40 PM   #67 (permalink)
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That's what I thought. Though impressive, the entire stab is not gone like with the airbusses. There is still just enough there to prevent catastrophe. Kudos to Boeing. Unless someone can show official proof otherwise, I still say the loss of the ENTIRE vertical stab will cause a crash, and I provided the NTSB link twice showing a very high profile example. I can't believe we're still debating this.
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That's what I thought. Though impressive, the entire stab is not gone like with the airbusses. There is still just enough there to prevent catastrophe. Kudos to Boeing. Unless someone can show official proof otherwise, I still say the loss of the ENTIRE vertical stab will cause a crash, and I provided the NTSB link twice showing a very high profile example. I can't believe we're still debating this.
Dude,

I don't think what's left of the vertical stab is doing anything more than showing you where the vertical stab used to be. As my favorite baseball announcer says, "He gone!"
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I don't think what's left of the vertical stab is doing anything more than showing you where the vertical stab used to be. As my favorite baseball announcer says, "He gone!"

Wouldn't that jagged edge at least work as a vortex generator?


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Wouldn't that jagged edge at least work as a vortex generator?


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It MIGHT work as a sharp knife to cut warm butter. Maybe.
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