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Old 07-06-2009, 10:35 PM   #91 (permalink)
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190 pay: if you DON'T go after the new JB rates, all of the pilots get anvils, strip down to your "shorts" and get all up on yourself with ball pean hammers. That is the least you will deserve.

Paying your dues does NOT involve being at a regional airline, swallowing up to major airlines and then having your seniority just mixed in with the "major" pilots. That sounds like someone not wanting to take all that "due paying PIC time", waiting for the industry to turn around, interviewing and starting at the bottom of a MAJOR's seniority list. Unless you were hired in the '60s, you should not just "fall" into a major airline pilot job.

Oh, and I think I can be pretty sure about something that the arbitrator is NOT going to look at: How much money one mgmt group gave to the other airline(s).

GL to all the Frontier and Mid pilots.

To all my RAH friends: Do not expect to land in the oasis without having to first walk across the desert. A few of you have, but MOST have not.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:07 PM   #92 (permalink)
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190 pay: if you DON'T go after the new JB rates, all of the pilots get anvils, strip down to your "shorts" and get all up on yourself with ball pean hammers. That is the least you will deserve.

Paying your dues does NOT involve being at a regional airline, swallowing up to major airlines and then having your seniority just mixed in with the "major" pilots. That sounds like someone not wanting to take all that "due paying PIC time", waiting for the industry to turn around, interviewing and starting at the bottom of a MAJOR's seniority list. Unless you were hired in the '60s, you should not just "fall" into a major airline pilot job.

Oh, and I think I can be pretty sure about something that the arbitrator is NOT going to look at: How much money one mgmt group gave to the other airline(s).

GL to all the Frontier and Mid pilots.

To all my RAH friends: Do not expect to land in the oasis without having to first walk across the desert. A few of you have, but MOST have not.


Good posting. I agree, we have to protect our profession and stop buying our way to a better job.

Respect is not bought... it's earned with time.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:11 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I guess it is good to be young and naive. -80, I hope you are right in time that they will learn. Enjoy Hump Day All. Take care and KEEP SMILING!!
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:40 PM   #95 (permalink)
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More furloughs announced at Midwest, but Republic pilots will happily fly the 190 for their cheap rates. Fence and no current RAH listed pilot flying a Midwest labeled aircraft before a Midwest pilot.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:48 PM   #96 (permalink)
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My unofficial designation of a major is an airline where you can support an entire family on your airline salary alone as a first officer. This includes owning a house, two cars, and the basics of the American dream. You could do that at Midwest and Frontier. You cannot do that at Republic.
You are being facetious? 8 companies, 2 furloughs and 1 layoff in the last 20 yrs and your telling me that my F9 6th year pay is acceptable???? I would like to retire before I'm dead. No wonder we've got guys and gals buying there way into this goat rope of a profession.

I think I just threw up a little.......
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More furloughs announced at Midwest, but Republic pilots will happily fly the 190 for their cheap rates. Fence and no current RAH listed pilot flying a Midwest labeled aircraft before a Midwest pilot.

After all the hatred you've shown toward the RAH pilot group, are you actually going to join them? You've been crying for months about how RAH pilots should "refuse" the flying for the current rates, and now you're demanding that you get first dibs to fly those planes and routes for RAH pay. How ironic....
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Old 07-08-2009, 06:53 AM   #98 (permalink)
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After all the hatred you've shown toward the RAH pilot group, are you actually going to join them? You've been crying for months about how RAH pilots should "refuse" the flying for the current rates, and now you're demanding that you get first dibs to fly those planes and routes for RAH pay. How ironic....
If it wasn't for the Midwest pilots and people like them, you wouldn't even be making what you are now.
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:18 PM   #99 (permalink)
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If it wasn't for the Midwest pilots and people like them, you wouldn't even be making what you are now.
You got that right brother! If it wasn't for the good folks at mainline companies not taking a stand both out of and while in bankruptcy we wouldn't be flying these jets for such low wages.

It's okay though, vent here and blame us. It's all our fault for following a time honored path to the better jobs.
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After all the hatred you've shown toward the RAH pilot group, are you actually going to join them? You've been crying for months about how RAH pilots should "refuse" the flying for the current rates, and now you're demanding that you get first dibs to fly those planes and routes for RAH pay. How ironic....
Did I say I was coming back? No. I simply stated all Midwest pilots should have first dibs on flying their labeled aircraft before any current RAH pilot (the same can be said for Frontier). If we have to come back at RAH rates, it will be very hard economically to come back, but I have a contractual right to come back and *****.
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