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Old 07-03-2009, 03:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I'd say pilots won....
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why did they sue?
This was the group that was past 60 at the time the new rule was passed and wanted to be grandfathered back in. Would have open the door for every pilot who retired at 60 but under 65 to come back to work at previous seniority.

The dismissal of this suit is a very good thing.
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This was the group that was past 60 at the time the new rule was passed and wanted to be grandfathered back in. Would have open the door for every pilot who retired at 60 but under 65 to come back to work at previous seniority.

The dismissal of this suit is a very good thing.
Yeah i remember the scenario now and i agree 100%. The age 65 rule was bad enough let alone to have these greedy pilots trying to weasel their way back in to suck off the teet a little bit longer (all while their airline has guys on the street )
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If they stay as instructors.....will they now be paid as the most senior position they would hold if they were now back on the line? We'll see if the "Bubba" deals are still prevalent. This should be titled, "CAL Pilots Win".
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Those guys ALL could have come back...as new hire F/Os.
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This judgment has nothing to do with them returning to the line as required crew members. This lawsuit is directed at the Union from these guys for misrepresentation.

The FAA still has not ruled on the Unions inquiry that they were not required crew members at the time of the rule change.

Status quo until that ruling is revealed.
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This judgment has nothing to do with them returning to the line as required crew members. This lawsuit is directed at the Union from these guys for misrepresentation.

The FAA still has not ruled on the Unions inquiry that they were not required crew members at the time of the rule change.

Status quo until that ruling is revealed.
I think the FAA "ruled" in the language of the FAR and the age at date of implementation. Good luck getting Sim instructors classified as required crew members. Judge tossed it out for good reason, and it is a good indicator where other challenges on that basis will go.
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I think the FAA "ruled" in the language of the FAR and the age at date of implementation. Good luck getting Sim instructors classified as required crew members. Judge tossed it out for good reason, and it is a good indicator where other challenges on that basis will go.
Unfortunately that is exactly what Continental is saying, These 12 Pilots are being allowed to stay on the property based on CAL's interpretation that they supposedly were required crew members before the rule changed.

Funny how no other carrier, (or our Union), saw it that way either. By the time the FAA finally does rule on this these clowns will probably all be over 65 anyway.
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