I get your point, but maybe you're not seeing mine. There is nothing in this Bloomberg article that tells us which way this will conclude, or even that we have lost this "tat". That wasn't my argument. The only value of the article is that it shows alternative outcomes. The point the article doesn't make, because it can't report the unknown, is what other events could occur. For example, could ANA offer a merger with STAR money?
For now, we seem to be looking at a series of difficult moves for AMR. I agree with you: they might have to make a difficult choice between sacrificing two valuable pieces. But you and I don't even see the entire chessboard, and we defintiely don't see the future. Therefore, it's pretty difficult for either one of us to call the result of this particular exchange, and it's definitely premature to call check mate.
And we should not presume they're not also playing for keeps.
You are correct, but my point is DAL doing what they are doing is forcing AMR to make a decision when they did not want to. They have other things on their plate they wanted to deal with first.
I get your point, but maybe you're not seeing mine. There is nothing in this Bloomberg article that tells us which way this will conclude, or even that we have lost this "tat". That wasn't my argument. The only value of the article is that it shows alternative outcomes. The point the article doesn't make, because it can't report the unknown, is what other events could occur. For example, could ANA offer a merger with STAR money?
For now, we seem to be looking at a series of difficult moves for AMR. I agree with you: they might have to make a difficult choice between sacrificing two valuable pieces. But you and I don't even see the entire chessboard, and we defintiely don't see the future. Therefore, it's pretty difficult for either one of us to call the result of this particular exchange, and it's definitely premature to call check mate.
And we should not presume they're not also playing for keeps.
+1. Sink r8, you write quite well. I agree with your reasoning completely.
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You are correct, but my point is DAL doing what they are doing is forcing AMR to make a decision when they did not want to. They have other things on their plate they wanted to deal with first.
I see it the same way. It's definitely a smart offensive move. I'm only talking about not presuming on the outcome.
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+1. Sink r8, you write quite well. I agree with your reasoning completely.
Thanks. Part of the reason I'm tempering optimism with caution is explained by previous match-ups, like the Allen-vs.-Crandall Pan American Championship.
Thanks. Part of the reason I'm tempering optimism with caution is explained by previous match-ups, like the Allen-vs.-Crandall Pan American Championship.
Luckily, RA II looks smarter than RA I.
Good point.
I just impresses me with how our guys are maneuvering and forcing people and corporations to take actions.
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That it will. I do not think that includes that AF will bring to the table if needed.
You would think a combined AF/KLM-DAL offer would carry considerable weight. You might also think our ability to dictate terms would be somewhat lessened if we're not the only big dog around the bowl. Then again, If we come up with a satisfactory agreement between the US and Japan, it shouldn't interfere with a satisfactory agreement between Europe and Japan.
There are a lot of moving parts to this, and I think we have a good team that has a better than average chance at making things work. So I'll be cautiously optimistic that some of the pieces will work in our favor. I also happen to think there could be some "win-win" deals that involve little cash, and are favorable to everyone involved, as I explained in the AA/LCC thread.
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