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Old 09-26-2009, 02:53 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Maybe you should try flying and doing porn at the same time. Best of both worlds? Maybe even try being a lawyer while practicing medicine too.
Didnt some SouthWest guys try that?
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Didnt some SouthWest guys try that?
Not sober....
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:07 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Your optimsim is nice, however I imagine you're well under the age of about 25. When I was 17, the guideance councellor never mentioned the days and even weeks without seeing your friends, wife, children, ect.. If you don't plan on having a family, are fine with making very little money and don't mind being alone A LOT, then it's a swell job. I'm writing this in my hotel room, bored and missing my familiy. I should have been a guideance councellor!!
...I was 21 when the movie "TopGun" premiered. I had all of my ratings and an interview at an airline that had jet equipment. NOONE could have convinced me that some day I would have kids that mean more to me than flying...

I still think about an intervention program, a traveling panel of cranky middle aged, hooked by the wallet & deeply obligated to financial commitment pilots need to put on a traveling road show to places like UND, SIU, Purdue and ERAU. Make it a venue like the late 70's T.V. show "Scared Straight"
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Old 09-26-2009, 03:07 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Never dissuade anyone from following their dream. It would be a crime to wake up on your 65th birthday and say… “Gee, I shoulda, coulda, woulda”.

Those that are fed up with the job... well you all know where the front door is.
Great post!
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Old 09-26-2009, 05:53 PM   #45 (permalink)
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“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. ” Calvin Coolidge 1872-1933 30th President of the United States.

Skysnake, good on you for offering to help. Mentoring these young folks is one of the ways to fix our industry ills.
In the early -mid 70's, remember some real Skyhighs, if I had listened to them, I would likely be bored at 10 feet doing something else.<g> Instead, repeated the quote above to get me through all the negativity. Glad I live in America, where I have the freedom and the opportunity to fail instead of having no chance but to fail.
Been flying for 16 years in the airlines, after many in the military. I still think I have one of the best gigs in the world. Guess I am a defect, but works for me. Same wife for 20 years too.
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YAWN! Same boring excuse that could be used FOR ANY OTHER JOB, except the FL300 part.

I find it funny how people act like pilots are the only ones who get divorced.

Newsflash! It happens to Doctors(much longer hours then pilots), Lawyers(much longer hours then pilots), Policemen, Firefighters, Businessmen, Construction workers, Office workers, Food Industry workers, etc. The list goes on and on.

Sorry it didn't work out for you. Good Luck in whatever else you pursue.


To the original poster, Kudos for helping someone who's interested in Aviation. It's great to have a mentor from the inside.

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You are one those lucky few that went from a regional FO to a major in a couple years. It worked out for you. You had a good experience with commercial aviation but most of us won't. You gut lucky and the fact that you are in a major at a young age has nothing to do with your skills but more to do with luck. Please don't belittle me because I got hired 3 years after you did.
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Old 09-26-2009, 07:57 PM   #47 (permalink)
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This thread is about mentoring a young person who has thoughts of being a pilot. If APC is done with this advice then I can closed this thread and count it a success. I will not watch this thread turn into ANOTHER OF THE SAME back and forth arguments about stuff that has been covered a million times. If you wish to discuss those same issues - go dig up one of the many other threads.

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Old 09-27-2009, 06:21 AM   #48 (permalink)
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How about if we give him political advice?
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Old 09-27-2009, 08:33 AM   #49 (permalink)
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“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. ” Calvin Coolidge 1872-1933 30th President of the United States.

Skysnake, good on you for offering to help. Mentoring these young folks is one of the ways to fix our industry ills.
In the early -mid 70's, remember some real Skyhighs, if I had listened to them, I would likely be bored at 10 feet doing something else.<g> Instead, repeated the quote above to get me through all the negativity. Glad I live in America, where I have the freedom and the opportunity to fail instead of having no chance but to fail.
Been flying for 16 years in the airlines, after many in the military. I still think I have one of the best gigs in the world. Guess I am a defect, but works for me. Same wife for 20 years too.
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I agree on this one. My class of civilian trained pilots the number is one in ten have so far made it to a major carrier and still has a job at a major carrier. This was from the early seventies when it was difficult for a civilian pilot to even get an interview. One via, Southern, Republic (the real one),Northwest and now Delta , the joke is he never had to buy the same uniform twice.
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... One via, Southern, Republic (the real one),Northwest and now Delta , the joke is he never had to buy the same uniform twice.
Wasn't there a 5th airline there somewhere? When the DAL-NWA merger was announced I ran into a NWA captain in Narita who he said Delta uniform would be his 5th uniform and he'd only interviewed once and worked for the "same" airline all his life...
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