SWAcapt

Perhaps a little hypocritical Hog? Why would you assume the worst and somehow come to the conclusion that it was obvious that there was an emergency? How do you know if a potential disaster was averted? Certainly with a little thought, you as a pilot, might be able to come up with a reasonable scenario that would require the aircraft to adjust it's gross weight and return to it's point of origin without there being an in flight emergency. I know I can.

Main Entry: emer·gen·cy
Pronunciation: \i-ˈmər-jənt-sē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural emer·gen·cies
1 : an unforeseen combination of circumstances or the resulting state that calls for immediate action.
2 : an urgent need for assistance or relief.

Groundhog

Hypocritical? Hardly.
My point was this: why assume the worst of your fellow pilots?

When the newspapers and the talking heads start talking about "pilot error" well before any investigation is completed, we are quick to condemn it. When one of our own on the board implies that a pilot miscalculated his/her FTDT,resulting in the dumping of 1000 of pounds of fuel, a return to the gate, and the inconveniencing of scores of passengers, you think it's worthy of defense.
For my part, I will assume that the pilots and crew did an outstanding job in handling whatever situation they faced. That was the intent of the quoted text within my post. If I overshot the mark, who cares? We have enough critics and management types who are happy to tell us that we're not worth the money we're paid.

Hog

myoface

Hog,

I think you neglected to read the portion of his post where he said that he checked UALs site and it said that it was delayed due to crew rest. That led him to question whether or not it was a crew rest issue discovered in flight. UAL is terrible in how they describe delays, and I am confident that there was a MX issue, so they came back, and then it was subsequently delayed due to crew rest issues and that is the reason they posted on the flight status.

cesnacaptn

The way I understand it, UAL posts the last reason for a delay. I used to work for a United Express carrier and we were instructed to use a delay code for the last reason for a delay. You could've had a late inbound aircraft due to a mechanical at the outstation, taxied out and been delayed due to thunderstorms, refueled due to a change of alternates, and then had to de-ice because it started snowing. You would put down a delay code signifying you were delayed for de-ice, when the whole delay started because of the mechanical at the outstation.

Groundhog

No. I saw that. He assumed the delay code explained the return. It didn't. The delay code explained why the flight was not going to be departing until the next morning.
I acknowledged that in my first post.
Hog

captjns

Yeah... I know... but remember maturity usually comes with experience. Thus as time marches on, queeries will be properly formatted for the situation at hand.

crazyjaydawg

Must be a flightaware glitch, the duration was 2:38, it's pretty tough to get somewhere over the middle of idaho with the winds we've been gettin lately and back within that time. The time is on track with somewhere north of michigan and back...

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Lambourne

So we should apologize for someone that doesn't have the maturity to ask a question properly? He asked and insinuated. Therefore he is open to the lesson. Just consider it an education session.


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syd111

Experience? I thought the orginal person that posted this lists flying for dal north. His experience level should know better.

ZDub

I would think that a negative insinuation might look something like "So I see you morons screwed up again". Now THAT might be out of order, and yes, immature. I'm not sure I really saw that. In fact, didn't he say that it would be a pretty big mistake if that's what had happened?

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