contrail67

Tell the 1300+ furloughs at UAL that and show me where Wallach towed the line for them....he did nothing.

SOTeric

Considering I'm one of them, can I get back to you on that?

The issue at hand is this election.

FRATS

Dicecal

I agree, and so far no words from Wendy..where is the leadership? We may be screwed again...
United pilots opt for cooperation in union shakeup -- chicagotribune.com

Captain Bligh

Where does the mentality that if an airline furloughs it somehow means that the union hasn't done it's job correctly? There is only so much flying to do, simple math means there is a limit to how many pilot that will take.

Captain Bligh

Actually he did. Unlike the C.A.L MEC, he protected the interests, pay and benefits of the pilots who remained from erosion by keeping too many pilots on to cover the limited flying.

Equinox

over 50% of United's domestic flying is outsourced....because united's mec and alpa representation thought this was "good" for the airline, or they refused to draw a line in the sand and say NO to the the bankruptcy process...now the international flying is being outsourced.
What will alpa's lawyers and leaders do now? Cooperate?

I can't believe I gave up a life for this alleged "profession".
Management is greedy, and alpa refuses to fight for standards across the industry. Remember, the alpa national chair signs ALL contracts.....

Short Bus Drive

"Security is a dubious word in this business..." a quote from you awhile back.

Give it a rest! I gave up a job after 8 years, making goooooood money, and a decent schedule, but... whatever. It is what it is. Hindsight is 20/20.

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syd111

Actually about 30 of them did cross and 4 on the first day. then there was another 30 that did what the person in question did and that is worked both sides of the fence. When the striking 570 returned starting around nov of 1985 (yes we won't go back with out you) they were placed behind the entire 539 that were all hired during the strike but many were not considered sc---, at least by some people. The striking 570 were also behind the 570 that worked both sides of the fence until it was worked out in court and then suddenly they were also 570 and they went to their original class date, yes until then they were a head of many. In fact many of them took captain bids in front of their 570 friends yes including a person in question.

Just some thoughts on the subject as some of them don't like to be lumped in with some of the others.

Another subject I find amusing is when people here talk about alpa national signing off on contracts, always wondered how they signed off on one with some of your alpa brothers from another alpa carrier that took a 15% paycut with the idea of running you and your company out of business. Hey but thats okay as I am sure now that they have merged with another carrier they will all stop by the picket lines I hear about and maybe even bring you some donuts before they head over to fly their trips while you hold down the line!

aquagreen73s

The inconvenient truth is that a union can't represent both sides of the coin. Oursourcing is a zero sum game - mainline gives and the regionals take. It defies logic to think that any union can possibly represent two sets of pilots whose interests are inversely related. I suppose that's why the sole purpose of ALPA has been to trumpet the "it's not the union's fault . . ." line. Well if it's not ALPA's fault, then who's fault is it?

ALPA's foundation was bound to break, and it's breaking now under the weight of reality. THere is no denying that ALPA's "Big Tent" strategy has been a colossal mistake. Only a mainline union can represent mainline intersts. UAL needs to dump ALPA now.

SOTeric

Either that or dump the commuters....and I don't see that happening.

An in-house union may be the only alternative. Count me in (when recalled).