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Old 10-22-2009, 06:00 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Good job guys!

370 posts about Delta landing on a taxiway (before it got locked), 56 posts (and counting) about whatever caused NW to go 150 miles extra, and only 19 posts about a crew that correctly handled an emergency.
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Default FYI: Airbus survives missle hit Baghdad 2003

An airbus A300 (DHL) did survive a missile hit and landed with total hydraulic failure among other significant damage. Hope the links work out:

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FileDHL Airbus A300B4-203F, BIAP (2164280283).jpg - Wikimedia Commons

Luchtzak Aviation Pictures - DHL missile-attack Airbus A300 Baghdad

DHL Airbus A300 cargo plane hit by surface to air missle

DHL Missile incident in Baghdad
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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2nd best line of that movie.
i gotta ask. whats the first?
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
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that john denver guy was full of sh1t
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:31 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Sounds like a job well done.

Good thing they weren't regional pilots-- or else the outcome would have surely been different.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:34 PM   #26 (permalink)
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i gotta ask. whats the first?

Cmon, we're pilots. No one got a kick out of - "how was your day?" "I fell out of the Jetway - again."
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:42 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I said one in a MILLION not one in a BILLION
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:49 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Had some extra time in a sim a few years back and the instructor gave us a total hyd failure in-flight. Keep in mind we were at 10,000 ft and 250 kts, but using differential thrust and trim, we were able to get it on the ground. Not trying to take anything away from the crew, but it can be done. I am glad mine was in the sim though.
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:10 AM   #29 (permalink)
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i gotta ask. whats the first?
"....then you go and do something like this......AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!" (followed by failed high-five).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKRtdgQhVbw

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Old 10-23-2009, 07:38 AM   #30 (permalink)
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In the event of a total hydraulic failure (which isn't what happened here, of course), you're no more screwed on an A320 than you are on any other hydraulically-controlled airplane. If things get bad enough that you've lost all three hydraulics, Pierre/Fifi will even let you move the thrust levers...

UpThere: I got to try that in a sim myself - I'm kind of a UA232 nerd. I really don't understand why more pilots haven't been exposed to that in training. I mean, for a scenario that manufacturers have always said was "Impossible", it's happened at least three times I can come up with off the top of my head (JAL 123, UA232, the DHL A300). It's worth pointing out the progression of crew response in those three examples:

1) Based on the CVR, it seems the JAL crew was caught completely off guard by the failure, made heroic, but limited, attempts to control the aircraft, and crashed into a mountain with only four survivors.

2) UA232 - Jumpseat rider/throttle manipulator extraordinaire Denny Fitch is on the record as saying he studied the JAL 123 accident thoroughly when it happened (being a training department guy), and applied the lessons he learned from it on the DC-10. The plane crash-landed, and about 2/3rds of the people on board survived.

3) The crew of the DHL A300 is on the record as saying they'd studied UA232 in the past, and managed to return their aircraft for an emergency landing. Everyone lived.

I can think of no greater demonstration of the potential growth of our collective knowledge than those three examples. If you're not trying to learn something from every incident you hear about, you're doing something wrong.

*Oh, and I'm partial to the singalong with the Mexican family in the back of the van.

"Mock!"
"Si!"
"-ing!"
"Si!"

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