Are you really that curious? OK, in this case if they were indeed having a conversation that kept them NORDO for close to an hour, there are big problems indeed. Most events are understandable, some are not. I can't comprehend a professional pilot that irresponsible. So the other distinct possiblility is that they fell asleep. Unfortunately, this happens. Happens to aviators, truckers, etc. Sometimes physiology takes its toll. Do you honestly believe these guys were having a conversation where they completely lost situational awareness for close to an hour?
There are some big red flags in this incident, I'm not suggesting anything to the contrary. It's easy to jump to conclusions, but without facts, what are the benefits of the public assassination of a crew?
Media reports are helpful and relevant. I know you hate that. I trust the media reports more than I trust whatever the lawyers can dream up in the meantime. You have to be able to read between the lines on your own my friend.
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on each of those points, my friend.
Media reports are helpful and relevant. I know you hate that. I trust the media reports more than I trust whatever the lawyers can dream up in the meantime. You have to be able to read between the lines on your own my friend.
They are interesting, relevant...not so sure: I'm glad that you, and several others have not only figured out what happened but also solved the problem. However you will, and have made a mistake, and if you're lucky, someone will be there to pick it up. No one in this industry has ever flown the perfect flight and if you think your have...
Perhaps we should wait until all the info comes out...
Not saying that we will...just think there has been more than enough public flogging...to what end? Maybe so we can pound our chests more, we need to learn from it and move on!
With the merger 100% of Nwa SOP's have changed. Everything. Every two months we're changing again. We are on Phase 5 going into the final Phase 6. Nwa has taken 80% of the changes compared to 20% Dal from what I hear. Some things are similiar but it is very possible they were discussing some sort of operational policy.
Also, Airbus guys are now in Bid Period 5 which is completely new. These changes include Pbs, scheduling, etc. Many changes are happening. Let's wait for some facts.
SOP's have changed frequently? Fine. But come on guys. This crew, for whatever reason, overflew their intended airport by 150 miles. How about some basic airmanship and common sense here? Unless they were both totally zonked out, there really is no good explanation here. These weren't two private pilots trying to land a 320 we're talking about here.
Unity? What unity? The facts haven't even been released and you've made up your mind. I thought the media are the only ones prejudging our profession. Well, maybe not. Watch your back guys/gals.
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