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Old 10-25-2009, 05:54 PM   #31 (permalink)
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HSLD is attempting to portray himself as a voice of reason unaffected by emotion. His tone is that of a lawyer. He would prefer all discussion of the NWA incident cease until an investigation is complete. This is a defense mechanism.

Turning a blind eye to the facts in the name of an official investigation ignores the obvious. This crew is guilty of negligence. The public knows this. The media knows this. The pilots know this. Even HSLD knows this.
Wow. I'm speechless.
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:10 PM   #32 (permalink)
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No shame for anyone trying these 2 guys in the court of public opinion?
Absolutely amazing and sad with some of the posts from the past couple of days in regards to this incident.



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Old 10-25-2009, 06:22 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I saw another interview with the FO. He tried to do the right thing and tell the reporter that he had no comment; though in the end he ended up basically making a statment. If they (he) doesn't want to be judged by public opinion - then don't speak to the media!

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HSLD,

I am not attempting to smear these guys. I don't know what happened, only the Capt and FO know. It appears that the FDR won't be of any help. All we will probably ever know is what they tell us. Distraction or asleep? Man, have I made some mistakes. But NORDO for an hour in the US (radar environment)? Flying over the airport by 150 miles? I guess it can happen.

However, if they did fall asleep, I can understand. We have all felt tired, whether it was the end of a week long trip or day one. It happens to all of us, no matter what career field we are in. Doctors, lawyers, pilots, etc. It is simply part of our physiology, nothing about being a pilot means we are immune to being sleepy.

The bottomline is that I am not calling these guys out. We are fallable and could make a huge mistake on any flight. This will be my last post on the matter. Fly safe..
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I saw another interview with the FO. He tried to do the right thing and tell the reporter that he had no comment; though in the end he ended up basically making a statment. If they (he) doesn't want to be judged by public opinion - then don't speak to the media!

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Agreed! The only two words that need be spoken are "no comment".
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:40 PM   #36 (permalink)
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And I hope others wouldn't feel compelled to support me in my negligence simply because we have a common career. It shouldn't make a difference. I'd rather you give it to me like it is.

Don't worry, we won't. I can only hope that when you make a mistake, and you will, you are given the boot.
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:43 PM   #37 (permalink)
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the media shouldnt be able to cover things that fly and eventually hit the ground...
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:59 PM   #38 (permalink)
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No one has mentioned this but; did we just get screwed with the ongoing campaign to have video surveillance in airline cockpits? None of us want it, but it has crept into other forms of public transportation. SIDE RANT: If we're considered a 'public service' (cops, fire...TSA!!!) shouldn't we get the bennies of say; loan forgiveness/pension??
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Old 10-25-2009, 07:40 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I did a few trips with the FO when we both flew 727s for a charter airline back in the early '90s. Sad to see this happen to him-- he was very professional, fun to hang out with, and a good stick with tons of experience.
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