Thank you for posting this information, Plane150. Would you happen to have the source of that information handy? I'd like to pass it along, and it seems to be on several sites, but I can't find an official source.
This is all I can find on the NTSB website at this time:
On Wednesday, October 21, 2009, at 1756 mountain daylight time, an Airbus A320, N03274, operating as Northwest Airlines (NWA) flight 188, became a NORDO (no radio communications) flight at 37,000 feet. The flight was operating as a 14 Code of Federal Air Regulation Part 121 flight from San Diego, California (SAN) to the Minneapolis-St Paul International/Wold-Chamberlain Airport (MSP) with 147 passengers unknown number of crew.
At 1958 central daylight time, the aircraft flew over the destination airport and continued northeast for approximately 150 miles. The MSP center controller reestablished communications at 2014 CDT and the pilot stated "we got distracted and we've overflown MSP. We are overhead Eau Clare, WI (EAU) and would like to make a 180 [degree turn] and do an arrival from over EAU." At 2019, the controller asked the pilot to explain the cause of the situation to which the pilot replied, "just cockpit distraction, that's all I can tell you."
After landing, the crew was interviewed by the FBI and airport police and the crew stated they were in a heated discussion over airline policy and they lost situational awareness.
A former coworker of mine sent it to me via email in the format I posted. I noticed the format was similiar to previous NTSB press releases and it had Keith Holloway's contact info (same as previous press release). I did a quick search online and found the WCCO.com article as well.
Another sad incident for our profession.
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Last edited by Plane5150 : 10-26-2009 at 03:04 PM.
Reason: Sent too soon...
This is GROSS negligence on the part of both cockpit crew members. It would have been bad if they had both fallen asleep.... but in many ways this is way worse.
As I kept reading through these problems I keep wondering where do you draw the line with defending some of the actions. Please keep in mind that I understand that Alpa will defend all of them the best they can and as a union they should but how about the line pilots where do you draw the line. This is not aimed at just the last 2 but as examples, landing on taxiway, flying by the airport, going to hotel and leaving engines running, shutting down engines at cruise whe mismanaging fuel system, going through the tree tops on approach, off the end of a dry runway ect. I am not trying to flame anyone and the ex I used are a variety of all legacy airlines I am just wondering where you draw the line in protecting individual pilots or our profession.
120 Minutes........I would have missed 2 departures in that time frame?
This is an absolute disgrace to the profession with NO Professionalism!!!!. They made us all look worse in the publics eye, WITHOUT making themselves look better.
BE PROFESSIONAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by hyperboy : 10-26-2009 at 03:51 PM.
Reason: addition
ATLANTA, Oct 26, 2009 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Delta Air Lines (DAL) today issued a statement regarding the company's cooperation with the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in the investigation of Northwest Flight 188. Delta and its Northwest operating subsidiary continue to openly and fully cooperate with the NTSB and FAA to complete the investigation. The pilots in command of Northwest Flight 188 remain suspended until the conclusion of the investigations into this incident.
Using laptops or engaging in activity unrelated to the pilots' command of the aircraft during flight is strictly against the airline's flight deck policies and violations of that policy will result in termination.
Delta CEO Richard Anderson said: "Nothing is more important to Delta than safety. We are going to continue to cooperate fully with the NTSB and the FAA in their investigations."
The NTSB earlier today issued a public release highlighting the initial findings of its investigation into the incident, including evidence that the pilots involved said they were distracted at cruise altitude between San Diego and Minneapolis-St. Paul. The NTSB's press release stated that the pilots said in interviews that "there was a concentrated period of discussion where they did not monitor the airplane or calls from ATC even though both stated they heard conversation on the radio ... neither pilot noticed messages that were sent by company dispatchers ... both said they lost track of time ... (and) each pilot accessed and used his personal laptop computer while they discussed the airline crew flight scheduling procedure."
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