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Old 10-31-2009, 03:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just curious. USAirway pilots, how do you feel about your wholly owned carriers (PDT & PSA)? How do you feel about them compared to the contract carriers?
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think these guys are just trying to earn a living just like the rest of us.

Why do u use the term "vs"? This is not a competition.
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think he is using the "VS" because our mainline "brothers" have never shown us at Piedmont any respect at least in the 5 years I have been here. You would think that we could work together in trying to get rid of mesa and republic, but mainline pilots fight Piedmont over trying to get rid of the 70 seat TURBOPROP scope in our contract. Meanwhile mesa and republic take THIER jobs in the 170 and CRJ-900 with no simmilar outrage. Also when I try to jumpseat instead of my "brothers" welcoming me, they treat me like a second class citizen and think I am trying to take their job in my 25 year old turboprop, if they even remember I fly a turboprop as their wholly owned regional. I wish they would show support for PSA and especially Piedmont in the Crew News sessions, and push Parker to keep flying in house instead of outsourcing, since Piedmont lost 11 aircraft this year and we are slowly withering away. That is why I think this fellow Piedmonster is asking about the mainline pilots attitude towards the WHOLLY OWNEDS VS the CONTRACT carriers. Because right now it doesnt seem like they even care about keeping us around...their fellow "brothers". Just my opinion though.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think he is using the "VS" because our mainline "brothers" have never shown us at Piedmont any respect at least in the 5 years I have been here. You would think that we could work together in trying to get rid of mesa and republic, but mainline pilots fight Piedmont over trying to get rid of the 70 seat TURBOPROP scope in our contract. Meanwhile mesa and republic take THIER jobs in the 170 and CRJ-900 with no simmilar outrage. Also when I try to jumpseat instead of my "brothers" welcoming me, they treat me like a second class citizen and think I am trying to take their job in my 25 year old turboprop, if they even remember I fly a turboprop as their wholly owned regional. I wish they would show support for PSA and especially Piedmont in the Crew News sessions, and push Parker to keep flying in house instead of outsourcing, since Piedmont lost 11 aircraft this year and we are slowly withering away. That is why I think this fellow Piedmonster is asking about the mainline pilots attitude towards the WHOLLY OWNEDS VS the CONTRACT carriers. Because right now it doesnt seem like they even care about keeping us around...their fellow "brothers". Just my opinion though.
From one wholly owned(Eagle) to another... I hear ya. I think all the WOs are in the same boat. It will be interesting to see if any mainline partner ever embraces their wholly owned carriers to work together. It would be seriously amazing and unstoppable if this could happen, but I'm thinking it is just a far-fetched idea.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think he is using the "VS" because our mainline "brothers" have never shown us at Piedmont any respect at least in the 5 years I have been here. You would think that we could work together in trying to get rid of mesa and republic, but mainline pilots fight Piedmont over trying to get rid of the 70 seat TURBOPROP scope in our contract. Meanwhile mesa and republic take THIER jobs in the 170 and CRJ-900 with no simmilar outrage. Also when I try to jumpseat instead of my "brothers" welcoming me, they treat me like a second class citizen and think I am trying to take their job in my 25 year old turboprop, if they even remember I fly a turboprop as their wholly owned regional. I wish they would show support for PSA and especially Piedmont in the Crew News sessions, and push Parker to keep flying in house instead of outsourcing, since Piedmont lost 11 aircraft this year and we are slowly withering away. That is why I think this fellow Piedmonster is asking about the mainline pilots attitude towards the WHOLLY OWNEDS VS the CONTRACT carriers. Because right now it doesnt seem like they even care about keeping us around...their fellow "brothers". Just my opinion though.
There is no outrage because Republic or Mesa hasn't "taken" any jobs from US Airways Pilots. Any flying performed at Republic or Mesa was negotiated by AAA ALPA by USAIRWAYS PILOTS. So, be careful on how you assign blame. But, don't take my word for it...ask a US Airways pilot.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I took an international flight recently and the captain gave a republic guy a first class seat and I (Wholly Owned) got to sit in coach.

Thanks DAD!
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I took an international flight recently and the captain gave a republic guy a first class seat and I (Wholly Owned) got to sit in coach.

Thanks DAD!
Were you jumpseating or non revving? There is a difference.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Were you jumpseating or non revving? There is a difference.
Doesn't matter DAD would never give his kids a first class seat.
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Do Airways pilots even visit this site? Guess not.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
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From one wholly owned(Eagle) to another... I hear ya. I think all the WOs are in the same boat. It will be interesting to see if any mainline partner ever embraces their wholly owned carriers to work together. It would be seriously amazing and unstoppable if this could happen, but I'm thinking it is just a far-fetched idea.
Compass looks pretty good these days - from the outside looking in.
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