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Old 11-02-2009, 06:26 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I was told by CPs there that the increased flying in LGA will be 30% mainline 70% regional.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:05 AM   #12 (permalink)
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There are a ton of routes that Piedmont and Air Wisconsin did that would be too small for a MD88 or E170. LGA-SCE, LGA-ITH, places like that. I'm guessing Comair and Pinnacle will fill the gaps on those.
Everyone is assuming that Delta is going to fly the exact same routes out of LGA that USair. That is not the case. While we will see some of the same markets served, some will be dropped and new ones opened.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I was told by CPs there that the increased flying in LGA will be 30% mainline 70% regional.
That's accurate.

It will not be 50 seaters, it will be the largest mainline replacement (service transparent) RJ's that they are allowed to operate, the E175's & CRJ900's. 76 seats with a gap to 142 seats. That can hardly be optimal. Maybe they are going to bring in some A319 / DC9's to help fill the gap.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:23 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Everyone is assuming that Delta is going to fly the exact same routes out of LGA that USair. That is not the case. While we will see some of the same markets served, some will be dropped and new ones opened.
I think the reason people are assuming we're flying the same routes, is that Delta said that they would. Also, there is a natural market already. If we don't serve ALB, BTV, SYR, ROC and BUF out of LGA, where in upstate NY are we going to go?

The reason USAir served those markets was because, well, that's where the passengers were.
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When Delta makes LGA a hub, will it bring more mainline flying to LGA or will their just be a sea of rj's in Delta colors parked at the gate?
This hub is to compete with JetBlue - I know our RJs are OK, but we cannot compete with JetBlue with RJs. JetBlue's TVs, service and ontime performance blows our RJs out of the water.
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There are a ton of routes that Piedmont and Air Wisconsin did that would be too small for a MD88 or E170. LGA-SCE, LGA-ITH, places like that. I'm guessing Comair and Pinnacle will fill the gaps on those.
who says we're only doing the exact routes that was done by usair?

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I think the reason people are assuming we're flying the same routes, is that Delta said that they would. Also, there is a natural market already. If we don't serve ALB, BTV, SYR, ROC and BUF out of LGA, where in upstate NY are we going to go?

The reason USAir served those markets was because, well, that's where the passengers were.
sure some of them will be flown but nothing says we wont add new routes either.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:16 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The initial plan from marketing is for about 30 to 35 additional mainline flights per day out of LGA. A few of those flights will be mainline flights shifted from JFK to reduce flights there with the planned shutdown of the largest runway all summer long. There is also talk of some type of ground shuttle to connect passengers from LGA to JFK but that has not yet been decided. There will also be a large increase in RJ flying. There are to many very small markets that have to be served.
If DL is seriously going to connect passengers from LGA to JFK via a ground shuttle, they might as well put up a link on delta.com straight to continental.com. Connecting at JFK is already a cluster****! Trying to get from LGA to JFK on the Van Wyck Expwy during rush hour on a bus is not going to go over very well.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:13 PM   #18 (permalink)
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This hub is to compete with JetBlue - I know our RJs are OK, but we cannot compete with JetBlue with RJs. JetBlue's TVs, service and ontime performance blows our RJs out of the water.
What doesn't blow our RJs out of the water? A Sopwith Camel perhaps? Nah - I would rather fly the Camel.
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Please explain to me how in the world you make money flying an rj between lga and Ith/mht/pvd. I have been on those runs with us air picking up planes and never been on a full flight even with turbo props.
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Please explain to me how in the world you make money flying an rj between lga and Ith/mht/pvd. I have been on those runs with us air picking up planes and never been on a full flight even with turbo props.
Maybe DAL has more feed? (Just a guess) All I know is that as time goes on, more and more of my flights are completely full. I think they like this right-sizing concept, because they are good at it.
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