A Rep cannot and should not have the interests of his group below the interests of a group he does not represent.
It makes a ton of sense that what ever consensus the C44 pilots arrive at the reps will support.
Restoration and recapturing our flying by whatever means possible. Unity from within will create unity at National. Ugly, but true.
If that means taking it back, it will be good for you. If that means joining everyone together that will be good for you. Recapturing DAL's branded flying has an upside to every DCI pilot that has a desire to work for the mainline. Out of the 7500 DCI pilots you might have 1500 that do not want to move on. It would be a lot better for your career if DALPA took that flying back. It would allow you to get to mainline a heck of a lot sooner and start accruing seniority then it will if nothing is done!
Think about that.
What's interesting to me, when going the through the website (which is nicely done), is how little substance there is. Lots and lots of optimistic talk, about how things should be, and how we wish they were, but little in the way of how to get there. And lots and lots of indirect complaining about the current MEC, but that's about it.
Assuming he's elected, I wish him well, and hope we don't suffer from the rude awakening I fear he will endure. I hope he's a quick study, and that his intellect is equal to the task. It's going to take a lot more than a virtual campaign, and web-based virtual friendships to make this work.
One topic about which he is 100% correct: the current MEC's communication efforts are poor. So poor that it's opening the door for a guy to ride the Scope wagon, a couple of years experience, a few hundred internet posts, and a few dozen rumors, to a seat on the MEC.
Of course, this only tells me that the current MEC's communications have set the bar so low that anyone could have crossed it. It says little about the people likely to cross that bar. Thankfully, there is more to an individual than a website, so there is still room to hope we will be impressed. The optimist in me hopes this will effect a constructive wake-up call, and that Nestor, if elected, would contribute to a better MEC, and better contracts.
Spot on.
Fact is that unless there is support from the pilots and the reps one works with, it is very hard to affect change.
A definitive path would be awesome to show, but simply put, one man's ideas are just that. One man's. There are well over 20 reps on the MEC and all of their opinions and the opinions of their pilot matter too. A guy telling you that this his way is the only way to do things would not be wise or a reality.
Gaining consensus and support from the pilots he represents as well has other LEC reps is the way to change the tide. Going it alone has proven not to work real well in the past, don't ya agree?
The whole point IMHO of answering questions on how you see things is to do one thing. It gives the pilots an idea where a Candidates "Bookends" are as it relates to each issue. If allows guys to know that if in a closed session of the MEC where they are giving the negotiating committee direction where pilot input in not a possibility, you know where he stands. No more no less.
I would like you to share your ideas for the goals as well. It is only after many pilots voice their ideas and input that we will finally have the ability to create a path that will work.
ACL65 - yes, I get it. You don't have to lecture me like I'm some kind of uneducated, spikey haired ipod wearing young whipper snapper. We weren't all hired in the last year at DCI. I understand the concept and I understand the problem that lies in the face of every mainline and DCI pilot. My problem lies with the two faced approach to unity. If you at mainline truly want unity with your DCI brothers, especially to facilitate "taking it back" you can't disparage, alienate and treat us with disdain. You have to engage all of us as fellow professional pilots and not as the ones causing the problem. You have to be able to see the benefits that DCI provides mainline and see us all as apart of the organization and not the scum on the bottom of your shoes.
Oh, and if you're going to take it back... TAKE IT ALL BACK. Every single last bit of it, from 0 to 76 seats. Don't pick and choose, don't designate flying worthy of it or not and don't cause any more division.
A Rep cannot and should not have the interests of his group below the interests of a group he does not represent.
It makes a ton of sense that what ever consensus the C44 pilots arrive at the reps will support.
So what will your vote be if every Council except 44 supports a position and the pilots of 44 are against it?
In theory you represent all the DAL pilots as well as C44.
ACL65 - yes, I get it. You don't have to lecture me like I'm some kind of uneducated, spikey haired ipod wearing young whipper snapper. We weren't all hired in the last year at DCI. I understand the concept and I understand the problem that lies in the face of every mainline and DCI pilot. My problem lies with the two faced approach to unity. If you at mainline truly want unity with your DCI brothers, especially to facilitate "taking it back" you can't disparage, alienate and treat us with disdain. You have to engage all of us as fellow professional pilots and not as the ones causing the problem. You have to be able to see the benefits that DCI provides mainline and see us all as apart of the organization and not the scum on the bottom of your shoes.
Oh, and if you're going to take it back... TAKE IT ALL BACK. Every single last bit of it, from 0 to 76 seats. Don't pick and choose, don't designate flying worthy of it or not and don't cause any more division.
It is not two faced. It is called knowing where the responsibility of the oath you take.
All DAL flying should be done by DAL pilots.
Our MEC engages the DCI MEC's you should know that. How we do that, and what we are looking for will depend on the pilots elected. If I was a DCI pilot I would be hoping for for former DCI guys to make it to the MEC.
So what will your vote be if every Council except 44 supports a position and the pilots of 44 are against it?
In theory you represent all the DAL pilots as well as C44.
Just playing Devil's Advocate.
I have only seen one time where the interests of one Council diverged from the group.
It this would happen, and the C44 pilots are against something, their reps should represent their interests. It would have to be something really significant for there to be that kind of divide in my opinion.
A very vague question too?
What would you do if you were a rep? (Keeping it real)
Isn't it funny... In "real life" I would never wear a short sleeved shirt with a tie....ever! (unless I was about to join the Geek Squad at Best Buy... which after the unemployment numbers out today might just happen) But in uniform, the long sleeves look funny. I guess it is just what you are used to.
Some guys just look tough in short sleeve shirts with ties. Long Live Sipowicz
I have only seen one time where the interests of one Council diverged from the group.
It this would happen, and the C44 pilots are against something, their reps should represent their interests. It would have to be something really significant for there to be that kind of divide in my opinion.
A very vague question too?
What would you do if you were a rep? (Keeping it real)
I have voted against the majority wishes of my council several times as a rep. Happened in both terms of office.
I would only do it if I felt I could make a logical, reasoned justification in writing to the entire Council in a newsletter. It is also difficult at times when dealing with NDA's. You may have information critical to the decision that cannot be released to the general membership. In my case, I usually voted Nay and sent out my reasons via email and attached to Council Minutes.
This is a good exercise for a new representative of the pitfalls of NDA's and the effect it has on your representation of your pilots. Unfortunately the time most likely for this to happen is in times of great distress for the pilot group.
Speaking of FO Reps, everyone should STRONGLY consider Greg Rizzuto for FO rep in DTW. This guy knows how to stand up for his values, and has demonstrated it in the past.
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