No, they complained because they were locked up in a crowded, nasty( full toilets) tube without food or water for hours on end. The airlines had years and years to do something about it and they chose not to even address the issue.
So who do I blame when I'm stuck in my car on the interstate due to an accident?
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No, they complained because they were locked up in a crowded, nasty( full toilets) tube without food or water for hours on end. The airlines had years and years to do something about it and they chose not to even address the issue.
The funny part of what your saying is that when airlines had food people complained. When they didnt have food people complained. When the airline does anything people complain. Constant in the equation - people complain.
Im sorry but if you cant go three hours without food then maybe you have a problem. Im sure those people wanting food probably could stand to skip a meal here and there.
The article quoted is correct in the assertion the airlines could prevent cancelations by shifting operations to prevent high frequency operations, having more pilots and aircraft in reserve, however there is too much economic pressure to have the cheapest fair for these solutions to be viable.
I believe some price fixing by the government would be nice. A minimum CASM built into fairs would stabilize the industry. We would no longer be a greyhound with wings. It would also shrink the industry substantially. The idea that everyone should be able to afford airline travel is absurd. The traveling public are trying to have their cake and eat it too. If you want safe quality service without controllable delays it costs money. If you want affordable air travel you should remember to pack a pillow so that bench at the airport is more comfortable.
Bingo! The average airline passenger won't think twice about dropping $150 on dinner, $80 on a movie, $200 on a sporting event, $400 on a smart phone, $200 on a pair of jeans, and I could go on and on and on. But come heck or high water they ARE NOT paying more then the lowest price to fly. Guess they value all those material things more then their and their families life.
In many cases people have gotten stuck on an airplane because of poor decisions not their own.
In a few, rare, but well publicized cases people have gotten stuck on an airplane because of poor decisions ...
Things were a mess in the southeast yesterday and there were ripple effects. And there were passengers who sounded like Barney Fife hollering "citizens arrest, citizens arrest".
"Passengers Bill of Rights, Passengers Bill of Rights!!!"
No sir, the passengers Bill of Rights that you are referring to, is not yet in effect. Also you may have been in that seat for 4 hours but the door to the aircraft wasn't closed for 4 hours. Just because you board early does not mean the clock starts ticking. And you could have left the airplane during the first 2+ hour wait- the door was open. We did taxi and sit for an hour before returning to the gate but one hour isn't three hours. And screaming at the crew as you are exiting isn't gonna get you anything.
So now when the door is shut and we back away from the gate, do we have to include a PA that the stop watches can be started for the 3 hour limit?
In a few, rare, but well publicized cases people have gotten stuck on an airplane because of poor decisions ...
Things were a mess in the southeast yesterday and there were ripple effects. And there were passengers who sounded like Barney Fife hollering "citizens arrest, citizens arrest".
"Passengers Bill of Rights, Passengers Bill of Rights!!!"
No sir, the passengers Bill of Rights that you are referring to, is not yet in effect. Also you may have been in that seat for 4 hours but the door to the aircraft wasn't closed for 4 hours. Just because you board early does not mean the clock starts ticking. And you could have left the airplane during the first 2+ hour wait- the door was open. We did taxi and sit for an hour before returning to the gate but one hour isn't three hours. And screaming at the crew as you are exiting isn't gonna get you anything.
So now when the door is shut and we back away from the gate, do we have to include a PA that the stop watches can be started for the 3 hour limit?
That's correct. The rule doesn't take effect until April, and sitting in the airplane with a way for the passengers to exit does not consitute being on the airplane. As long as the MCD is open with a way to deplane, the clock is NOT ticking.
In a few, rare, but well publicized cases people have gotten stuck on an airplane because of poor decisions ...
Things were a mess in the southeast yesterday and there were ripple effects. And there were passengers who sounded like Barney Fife hollering "citizens arrest, citizens arrest".
"Passengers Bill of Rights, Passengers Bill of Rights!!!"
No sir, the passengers Bill of Rights that you are referring to, is not yet in effect. Also you may have been in that seat for 4 hours but the door to the aircraft wasn't closed for 4 hours. Just because you board early does not mean the clock starts ticking. And you could have left the airplane during the first 2+ hour wait- the door was open. We did taxi and sit for an hour before returning to the gate but one hour isn't three hours. And screaming at the crew as you are exiting isn't gonna get you anything.
So now when the door is shut and we back away from the gate, do we have to include a PA that the stop watches can be started for the 3 hour limit?
It only takes one of your few and well publicized incidents to spark the outrage that led to the Passenger bill of rights. It will only take one or two more cases for the POB to revised to reflect new games as the airlines adjust and play them.
How about the airlines just keep me informed and let me know my options. I will then make my decision. Passenger Bill of Rights version 2.0 wont be necessary.
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