Scope, Scope, Scope!
03-15-2010, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
I think there is a much better chance of APA agreeing to some form of B scale(pay and work rules) for 70-100 seat jets then there is for capitulation on scope.
03-15-2010, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
For this to be true, it could only mean that the APA has softened on scope for that is one area that AMR has to have relief for AA to be a viable future competitor. As the 50-seaters wither and die, if there are no 70-76 seaters to replace them, AA has no feed and will suffocate.
03-15-2010, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
Really? Suffocate...? How's that working out for Southwest.... they have tons of "regional" feed, and their pay and work rules are just terrible.... right?
03-15-2010, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Call me crazy, but I think APA and AMR are making progress towards a contract. Ill bet they have a new one inked by Sept 1. The email updates I get from the aanegotiations website have had a slightly more positive tone and state that things are progressing. APA has been unusually quiet, without the stories of storming out of negotiations meetings, and press releases ridiculing mgmt. Anyone else?
03-15-2010, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
If you think SWA's business model and AA's are remotely similar, there's nothing more I can do for you.
For newbies, Southwest airlines doesn't need to fill up any 777 or 747 aircraft for international flights. It is easier to fill up a 737 for a flight from Houston to El Paso than a 767 for a flight from Atlanta to Heathrow. Southwest doesn't need feed, but Delta does need it for their type of operation.
03-15-2010, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
If you think SWA's business model and AA's are remotely similar, there's nothing more I can do for you. At any rate, you need to convince AA management your assertions are valid, not another pilot.
You sir are correct. AA loses money, Southwest makes money. They aren't the same at all.
03-16-2010, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mwa1
Mason is turning into a troll.
The main point is that the majors need feed and the low cost carriers do not. Should Jetblue's 190's be considered feed or only a right-sized airplane for certain routes?
03-16-2010, 08:54 AM
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Agreed about the difference between Legacy airlines and the LCCs. It's apples and oranges.
BTW, Mason isn't a newbie. He's an ex-Eagle pilot who is no longer an airline pilot IIRC. I don't know if he flys professionally anymore. If he doesn't, he's not alone. As soon as the economy picks up, I think we'll lose a few hundred more of our First Officers who no longer see a future in becoming rich flying airliners.
BTW, Mason isn't a newbie. He's an ex-Eagle pilot who is no longer an airline pilot IIRC. I don't know if he flys professionally anymore. If he doesn't, he's not alone. As soon as the economy picks up, I think we'll lose a few hundred more of our First Officers who no longer see a future in becoming rich flying airliners.
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