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Old 04-30-2010, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot View Post
There is about 15% overlap that could be cut meaning about 1500 pilot jobs lost (plus the 1500 already on the street), but you can keep dreaming. See you in the unemployment line.

You can always count on at least 1 negative attitude...don't be so confident of your outlook.
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Old 04-30-2010, 02:22 PM
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I'll do what I can to help this one get going....

I would not want to be the arbiter with that SLI in my hands. That one is going to be difficult with all the guys on the street.

As far as the airline itself, definitely a monster in the making if it's run well.
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Rocky,

Don't forget about the laundry debate. But I will admit, I was all over the NRT issue only to find out the problem was in AMS. I need to get out more.

Good luck UAL/CAL.......a merger is like a prostate exam, but it'll be over soon

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How involved will Tilton be post-merger? In this article it says he will be a
non-executive CEO for two years, and Smisek will be the CEO. How active is a non-executive CEO?

United, Continental could announce merger on Monday - USATODAY.com
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Old 04-30-2010, 02:52 PM
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Thought this was funny. Ray Neidl says the biggest hurdle is unions, and that the pilots are just a bunch of "prima donna's."
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Originally Posted by contrail67 View Post
You can always count on at least 1 negative attitude...don't be so confident of your outlook.

Thats exactly what I was thinking. My original post was completely sarcastic and some typical pilot wants to correct the error in the joke. Is somebody else going to correct my Mars sub orbit comment as well?

Of course, the huge UAL widebody presence is all fact.

No flame Otto, normally you are pretty level headed.

Plus, lets get back on topic discussing "the latest and greatest" for the new UAL.

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My .02, make sure your unions spend some time, actually a great deal of time ironing out a better contract. Demand that your MECs work together and explain to the company that the only way you'll sign off on a JCBA is with circa 2000 compensation and work rules. Oh, and no 70-seat RJs. If not, make sure the MEC convinces Tilton that it'll never be one airline any other way. This is where the DAL NWA merger was a total failure to the profession and how we ended up with 255 70 seat jets and 100 something 76 dual-class RJs. Sadly, but we owe most of our success to the US Air pilots for towing the line and tossing the BS flag. Their loss was our gain. Learn from both of us and 2010 going forward will be pivotal. Even APA may end up with a contract by 2020.
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK View Post
My .02, make sure your unions spend some time, actually a great deal of time ironing out a better contract. Demand that your MECs work together and explain to the company that the only way you'll sign off on a JCBA is with circa 2000 compensation and work rules. Oh, and no 70-seat RJs. If not, make sure the MEC convinces Tilton that it'll never be one airline any other way. This is where the DAL NWA merger was a total failure to the profession and how we ended up with 255 70 seat jets and 100 something 76 dual-class RJs. Sadly, but we owe most of our success to the US Air pilots for towing the line and tossing the BS flag. Their loss was our gain. Learn from both of us and 2010 going forward will be pivotal. Even APA may end up with a contract by 2020.
Spot on! Hold the line on scope and make sure they know they cant do the merger without the pilots on board...
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The larger the airline, the greater the opportunity to park RJ's, especially 50-seaters. When two airlines serve the same city with a dozen RJ's combined, you create an opportunity to maintain excellent schedules/frequencies, and more efficient aircraft. Five A-319's a day is penty frequent enough...
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
I'll do what I can to help this one get going....

I would not want to be the arbiter with that SLI in my hands. That one is going to be difficult with all the guys on the street.

As far as the airline itself, definitely a monster in the making if it's run well.
Okay, if it were me and I've said this before, if Delta merges with Alaska then I think the furloughed pilots there should be counted as if they were not furloughed- even though it would negatively affect me.

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My .02, make sure your unions spend some time, actually a great deal of time ironing out a better contract. Demand that your MECs work together and explain to the company that the only way you'll sign off on a JCBA is with circa 2000 compensation and work rules. Oh, and no 70-seat RJs. If not, make sure the MEC convinces Tilton that it'll never be one airline any other way. This is where the DAL NWA merger was a total failure to the profession and how we ended up with 255 70 seat jets and 100 something 76 dual-class RJs. Sadly, but we owe most of our success to the US Air pilots for towing the line and tossing the BS flag. Their loss was our gain. Learn from both of us and 2010 going forward will be pivotal. Even APA may end up with a contract by 2020.
You're right.

That's why USAir management gets this award:

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